But you still won’t answer the two questions... says it all.Yeah, sure.
But you still won’t answer the two questions... says it all.
Maybe so. I don't pay attention to most of what you post.Then you weren’t paying attention.
Sickening response to a protest. No violence or intent to harm and the officer's life was not in peril and just gunned down. Maybe we should have sent that officer to Seattle last summer. Bet those protests would have ended sooner......or gotten worse.The officer that fired was the last line of defense between the protestors and those in the senate chamber. They had smashed through the window of the barricaded door and the woman shot was the first one to try and hop through it.
The officer that shot could not see the officers coming up the hallway behind the protestors.
I don’t agree with the commentary, but this video gives the most context of those I’ve seen.
Federal buildings are public property aren't they?Well, if she was trespassing, I don’t think she would have much of a case.
You're just further proving as an apologist by deflecting with whataboutism regarding the actions that happened yesterday. Take it to your other dead thread.
You think she was in a space that was open to the public? You’re probably not going to get a lot of traction with that argument.Federal buildings are public property aren't they?
Trump wasn't perfect but was he the total issue or is a media that is blatantly biased and in continuous war against him no matter what was done also at fault? You watch the media will take a 4 year vacation now (like they did for 8 years with Obama) and that is really what is wrong.Where was the outrage at all the people burning federal buildings all summer? Ripping down federal monuments and trying to kill or blind police officers. Where was this outrage when Obama fanned the flames of rioters that got police officers executed? The outrage of people in this is bullshit unless they were equally outraged all summer. This country has been divided for a long time and Trump was the result of that divide. It is getting worse and will continue to as the democrats shove communism down the country’s throats
The BLM activist who took out those cops in downtown Dallas: also less outrage.Where was the outrage at all the people burning federal buildings all summer? Ripping down federal monuments and trying to kill or blind police officers. Where was this outrage when Obama fanned the flames of rioters that got police officers executed? The outrage of people in this is bullshit unless they were equally outraged all summer. This country has been divided for a long time and Trump was the result of that divide. It is getting worse and will continue to as the democrats shove communism down the country’s throats
Not deflecting. If you would have done that, yesterday would not have happened.
Pennsylvania judge halts election certification amid mail-in vote fight
A Pennsylvania state court issued an injunction Wednesday blocking any potential further certification of election results in the state, pending a hearing to be held Friday.www.foxnews.com
Laches
PA has run 2 elections since Act 77 was passed, both caucuses agreed to the rules beforehand and votes are already certified.
This isn't the ace in the hole PA Republicans thought they had.
We shall see. If you were watching the hearing on election issue just now you might have some different opinions.
I have it on tuning in and out.
Bottom line is Republicans would not have filed this suit if they won the state. The Act and its respective language isn't new information and didn't target any person or party unfairly.
You can't come to a federal court of equity seeking relief only when you lose when you knew there was an problem, but let it play out only to discover it didn't end up working to your benefit then cry foul.
Additionally, if we look to cases like Purcell v Gonzalez in '06, the conservative SCOTUS maintained that you need to make your case early and not wait until the eve of an election lest you disrupt the orderly process of elections by changing rules that could affect outcomes. The fact that the relief being sought is throwing out all mail-ins after the certification process has been completed goes against that ruling even more.
This was my best case scenario response for this thread. Common senseIt was looked into. In multiple cases. There were hearings in the senate as well as in multiple state legislatures. No allegation of fraud could be substantiated in any of those hearings.
I voted for Trump twice. I think mail in voting and extended voting windows lead to ballot harvesting shenanigans, but Trump’s team couldn’t prove it. The actions of these protestors were wrong and truly embarrassing for Trump, our party and the nation.
Maybe you should use this opportunity to give yourself a civics lesson.Is it extreme?
FOH yourself !
You obviously think the BLM protests were justified and fit that matter I think yesterday’s was too. Not backing off.
Am I in favor or 3 that people died? No.
Don’t recall that any businesses were burnt down or looted.
And you still haven’t addressed question #2.
So just kiss off!
No you missed it again ... not surprised!As far as question 2, since signature matching isn't good enough for you, maybe every voter who is about to mail it in should Skype with an election official to watch them sign it and take screenshots and timestamps before putting it in the mail. You're ridiculous.
Just like some are fine with the prospect of cheating in a election because they hated the candidate. Even to the point of an independant audit for the sake of a audit that minimally would show little but maybe help the overall system and in turn prove the cheating allegations false.What I have gathered is there are many people here who think charging the capitol, breaking in, causing a lockdown while congress is in session is ok because they also believe there are some people who did not oppose other riots at some other date.
That is some seriously interesting logic.
I would not be fine with cheating, but I also know cheating didn't happen. It's been proven over and over by Dems and Republican's alike. You just wont accept the results and choose to believe fringe nuts instead of all the evidence right in front of you. Even when those nuts say point blank there is no evidence of fraud when they are in court where there is accountability for their allegations, people somehow ignore that and pay attention to what they say at the local hardware store instead.Just like some are fine with the prospect of cheating in a election because they hated the candidate. Even to the point of an independant audit for the sake of a audit that minimally would show little but maybe help the overall system and in turn prove the cheating allegations false.
That as well is some interesting logic.
My notifications say differentMaybe so. I don't pay attention to most of what you post.
Because the data doesn't add up. Counties won by Biden are lowest ever by a election winner by a lot. See the bellwether county winner chart I posted earlier where Biden only won 18% of them, even Kennedy won 53% in 1960 and that election now has been researched and showed cheating. The one that gets me is rejection rates where they are 1-2% normally and this tine they are 1/10 of that using a voting method (mail in) that is usually 3 times larger rejection rate than the 1-2%. Data tells a lot and these are questions that have not been answered well if at all. Having those that ran elections do the auditing is like asking bank robbers to investigate their robbery.I would not be fine with cheating, but I also know cheating didn't happen. It's been proven over and over by Dems and Republican's alike. You just wont accept the results and choose to believe fringe nuts instead of all the evidence right in front of you. Even when those nuts say point blank there is no evidence of fraud when they are in court where there is accountability for their allegations, people somehow ignore that and pay attention to what they say at the local hardware store instead.
The normalization of radical conspiracy theories is fascinating and terrifying.
No you missed it again ... not surprised!
What I’ve repeatedly asked for is an audit (minimum 1 rep and 1 dem ) per comparison. Audit the signatures and the voter record ; ie this person is alive and a resident at the time of the election and this is his/her signature.
Get busy.
Keep dreaming...Didn't miss it, even if all your demands came true you'd come up with something like that. It's a pattern.
You're losing faith more in that legitimate results are increasingly not going your way than the system- specifically when it comes to other states and their respective processes whether you admit so or not.
Maybe you should use this opportunity to give yourself a civics lesson.
You seem to have me confused with someone. I didn't storm the capitol or suggest it was an option.Maybe you should use this opportunity to find that politics are politics and not a reason to storm the capital? We all have different opinions...storming the capital is not an option.
The GOP are rats, they go with whatever is politically expedient. There are things I don't like about Trump. the tweets against private citizens (I am fine with them against media or other politicians). The false religious push, we know what he has been, to make him out like Billy Graham is fake (but we have seen fake from all politicians, Hillary and her "black lingo" in a church comes to mind). But you need to ask yourself why does he have this support, from the working class, from an increased level of minorities the GOP couldn't dream of. Those groups saw positives in their lives his 4 years brought. Midle class yearly income on average up $6500 prior to pandemic. That is a lasting footprint on their lives. If he was a Fraud or Criminal you would have seen it in the impeachment trial and all they pushed was a fake story bought and paid for by Hillary. And what you see now are all aspects of the swamp converging around him, stretching stories to push him out. D.C. wants business as usual. the military complex wants a war to profit from. That is the next 4 years. The one thing their grand plans don't include are those working people, they will be lost again.Maybe you should use this opportunity to find that politics are politics and not a reason to storm the capital? We all have different opinions...storming the capital is not an option.
Trump is a fraud and criminal. Your own party leaders have stated this. Get a grip. Be a good Ag and pull your head out of your ass!
If not, we welcome your demis!
Or you could just go back to the football board. This was branched off for a reason. Personal choice to click.Mark I'm an old guy. Tired of the politics. Don't know how to unsubscribe, please cancel my subscription.
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Ksig44, I take your point. There were several things Trump undertook that were worthwhile (tax reform, building up the military, China trade policy, warp speed, etc.). But what the past four years have demonstrated is that even the best policies can be undone by overreach, wacky tweets, promoting easily discredited conspiracy theories (starting with the birther movement), and an abrasive personality that made good, talented people not want to work with him (Tillerson, several chiefs of staff, and a host of military leaders). In the end, his personality disorder resulted in his cult of personality doing the unthinkable. It will cost him his legacy and may damage the Republican Party for several election cycles to come.The GOP are rats, they go with whatever is politically expedient. There are things I don't like about Trump. the tweets against private citizens (I am fine with them against media or other politicians). The false religious push, we know what he has been, to make him out like Billy Graham is fake (but we have seen fake from all politicians, Hillary and her "black lingo" in a church comes to mind). But you need to ask yourself why does he have this support, from the working class, from an increased level of minorities the GOP couldn't dream of. Those groups saw positives in their lives his 4 years brought. Midle class yearly income on average up $6500 prior to pandemic. That is a lasting footprint on their lives. If he was a Fraud or Criminal you would have seen it in the impeachment trial and all they pushed was a fake story bought and paid for by Hillary. And what you see now are all aspects of the swamp converging around him, stretching stories to push him out. D.C. wants business as usual. the military complex wants a war to profit from. That is the next 4 years. The one thing their grand plans don't include are those working people, they will be lost again.
What does this mean? You won’t follow laws Biden passes?I’m not accepting any results. Period.
Keep dreaming...
What does this mean? You won’t follow laws Biden passes?
Does anyone care if you accept the results of the election?
My only issue is this was an unarmed group of people. Yes they were outmanned but thre was only one shot fired and it was his at that woman. Biden (or maybe it was Pelosi) called them an armed group and that was a lie.Seems odd some of the same posters who defended a horrible lawyer and his wife who pointed guns at people walking down a street are mad that someone used a gun against a protestor inside the f-ing Capital. It’s the US capital people.
Figured we’d have one of those badass Robocop 2 things on patrol.
And I get it, I really do but how much was a media as well that was on full attack mode 24/7. Those good things you mentioned they could never be truthful about. This is also a media that seems to make a villain of every GOP president back to Reagan (the dumb cowboy) and protects every democrat and even makes them into icon Gods in pop culture. There is your cult of personality in full display. Same way you see thousands of items in merchandise for RBG and nothing for Scalia. Both iconic Justices but only one (the liberal one) made into a sue do-God. Trump has his issues sure, but if you are ignoring this brain washing you get day to day then you are ignoring a HUGE problem. He cot caught up in it by going after it.Ksig44, I take your point. There were several things Trump undertook that were worthwhile (tax reform, building up the military, China trade policy, warp speed, etc.). But what the past four years have demonstrated is that even the best policies can be undone by overreach, wacky tweets, promoting easily discredited conspiracy theories (starting with the birther movement), and an abrasive personality that made good, talented people not want to work with him (Tillerson, several chiefs of staff, and a host of military leaders). In the end, his personality disorder resulted in his cult of personality doing the unthinkable. It will cost him his legacy and may damage the Republican Party for several election cycles to come.