You’re talking about the current liar in chief or the previous?
To Mask or Not to Mask that is the question?
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Lol. What Terrible points. Fauci has said a million things and is consistently going back on what he said. The point is not that he shouldn’t be able to change his mind. The point is that he’s constantly wrong and we shouldn’t listen to the next thing because odds are it will be wrong.
Guess it could be worse. Trust the science guys! Wear your mask at sea.
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Brits in Spain will have to wear a mask on the beach...and in the sea
Brits holidaying in Spain will be forced to wear face masks on the beach - and even in the sea - after a new decree issued by the government.
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Masks are a con job cooked up to make us think we were doing something important and as a control devise (now used for political purposes). If we all wear n95 correctly it may help but it was decided it would have put the medical profession in danger which is correct. So here we go still wearing masks with the vaccinations like a theater of fools.
Mostly this strange love affair the left seems to have with Fauci. The guy isn’t all that impressive of a physician and seems to be more political than anything. The whole damn nation followed the guy and any advice he’s given seems to have an expiration date. Everyone in the government in down listened to the guy yet he seems to not get any blame for anything. He’s a political hack
Not sure I follow? We have pretty good data on expected deaths per year. We tend to have about 2.5% more deaths per year every year based on population growth and age. 2020 we had 23% gain in deaths.
Not sure a single Trumper listened to Fauci because Trump hated his guts for not downplaying the virus. When Trump got covid, man he was pretty giddy. He isn’t political, he is a doctor trying to give medical advice.
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Every “Trumper” I know tried as best they could to follow the guidelines so your little BS post is typical crap from the left. We were locked down as a nation to flatten the curve. Remember. That seems to me like it didn’t work when you compare the different states and their reaction to it all. Cali, NY and other states ran completely by democrats top to bottom had much worse outcomes than say Florida. Were the democrats in those states not listening to Trump and Fauci or was it only Trump supporters that didn’t listen? Curious what your take is as the numbers don’t support any of this crap. You think those Europeans were listening and ignoring lord Fauci? Why are they still having such hell? Were they not listening to Trump? You think if dementia Joe’s dumb crooked azz was running shit we would even have a vaccine by now? He’d still be telling everyone that shutting down travel from hotspots around the world had something to do with race. You and your democrat friends seem to ignore the tens of thousands of people storming our southern border where there are no masks and this virus is running rampant through that population. Are those “trumpers” that didn’t listen to your lord Fauci?
1. Everyone downplayed the virus at first.
2. Policy was shaped by Fauci and other’s reccos.
3. If Trumpers didn’t listen it would just be mostly Trumpers getting the virus and yet a lot of lib states did very poorly and minority communities which didn’t vote Trump did poorly in many cases.
When your whole world view is orange man bad you have to pigeonhole everything to fit that. You have to be smart to do it and you are.
Yes really fast to all that, population density. Why is Fauci the bad guy for trying to keep more people alive?
I’ve been Republican my entire life. Still a big fiscal conservative but the last election I really viewed Trump as voting for ignorance so I did the pussy thing and voted for no one. Wife gave me a ton of shit but I was like yikes “I’m out”
I think both parties suck right now. Each party seems to be drawn too far left or right while most of us are just moderates.
Happy Easter! Disagreeing makes the off season more interesting, no?
I think both parties suck right now. Each party seems to be drawn too far left or right while most of us are just moderates.
Happy Easter! Disagreeing makes the off season more interesting, no?
I hear you but you don't come off as a moderate. Given Biden is suppose to be a moderate I understand.
I don’t like Biden either. He is basically president by default. Democrats realized the party was too far left and overnight said look, the Obama retread guy will win this. The moment the political advisors said he wild win, Trump started creating conspiracies on why he would lose.
Do you think I I want higher taxes? Do you think I want more government in my face? Most of us just want to be in the middle and not feel like we are voting for the Empire in Star Wars. Trump lied to us all day everyday, that’s not cool but became normalized.
I would really like the party to improve and attract new voters over trying to blame others. The country is changing and the party needs to change too.
Fauci isn’t a bad guy because he was “trying to keep more people alive “. He’s a guy that has been anointed as some sort of hero when he was consistently wrong. Trump followed his advice almost to a tee. Trump got all the blame and he was listening to and implementing Fauci’s plan. I am not convinced that there should have ever been a lockdown in the first place. It did not flatten the curve and I think it had done more damage to our children and the population as a whole who needed to be out working and earning a paycheck. Meanwhile Fauci gets to go to baseball games and not wear a mask and no problem. Fauci seems to be some mythical figure that can’t get anything wrong yet he is pretty consistently wrong. Seems to me the only true qualification he had was that he didn’t like trump and was pretty vocal about it. Didn’t matter that he was wrong on so many things and flip flopped on others. I’m sure he’s a very nice guy but he’s a politician playing Dr. otherwise he would have had a better track record
I suggest you think about what you post and defend in light of what you post being a republican (conservative) and all. I'm sorry buddy you don't come off like a right of center guy or I'm living in never never land.
i didn’t make the scale nor move the posts. If Biden is the new moderate then someone(s) did like a thief in the night.
The left has moved more left and the right has moved more libertarian. Trump was basically about as conservative as Bill Clinton. Look at gay marriage. Obama, Biden and Clinton all opposed it ten years ago. Amnesty for illegals. It’s all moved to the left. This talk of cancelling student debt, $15 minimum wage, reparations have all been discussed in some form forever but never seriously until now. If this gets this post moved to sports forum please delete instead.
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still waiting. I have “friends” who are “Republican lobbyist” who sound exactly like you. I can honestly say I’m done with the Republican Party. I have no political home and so be it. I bit my tongues and voted for mittens and John McCain but never again. And I’m not alone
Get over the mask. When I used to work at a small-town grocery store they had a sign that said, "no shirt, no shoes, no service". GTF over it. Tired of drama and stupid "freedom" bullshit. It's relentless. How many need to die so you decide to wear a 10 cent mask for 20 minutes at the grocery store? We are at 550K. If it doesn't work I'm sorry. It's a ridiculous argument. Do nothing? What's the proposal?
A lot of people die each year. Let's try not to let them die from COVID-19 or use statistics. I know, it's propaganda. Go ask hospital doctors and nurses with who I have many friends. Let me know what you hear. It's not bullshit. Let me know what Fox New says and I will shut up and listen. It's straight mitigation. This argument is "FREEDOM!!" It's a little silly.
If one of you stupid ****s chases Dean away again,
I swear to God I will explode.
I swear to God I will explode.
So your premise is that Fauci has been head of CDC Infectious Diseases for 30 - 40 years and he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to masks. He just learned of them over the past year. Right. That's who I want running my national response to a pandemic.
Maskers represent all walks of life. You’re not fundamentally different because there’s people like you that won’t feel so burdened or psychologically put out by wearing a mask during a pandemic.
I’m in Texas and we haven’t been to our office for over year per company guidelines.
You’re leaving out the assumption that masks are worn correctly.
The question is whether masks help stop the spread of Covid. That’s a broad term. A spreader wearing a cloth mask might still spread Covid to two people while traveling by plane (or at a crowded event) but would he have infected 20 without a mask? If you think that is or could be the case, then the answer to the question is yes.
The per capita stuff isn’t real world data attributable to mask wearing, at least not in this country. The data assumes infected people were around people with masks. Once Covid got a foothold it was going to spread. Mask wearing helped the individual but the population was screwed as long as infected people put themselves out in public. Mask wearing likely stemmed the tide but it was not going to push Covid down or eliminate it. Especially since a good portion of this country was too busy deciding whether Covid was a hoax or triggered by some perceived loss of freedom.
Suicide were up
Heart and stroke deaths were up.
more people would be alive if not locked up and kept from seeking preventative treatments.
YOURE NOT DRAGGING ME BACK INTO THIS QUAGMIRE, @CheekySchneider. I PREFER TO FOCUS MY EFFORTS ON SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE LIKE SUPPORTING AGGIE FOOTBALL OR TRASHING @rivalsmike
We know your side always needs someone to blame and then use hindsight like you’re smarter than everyone else, but this fetish with Fox News is what is silly. The left shames, attacks and spreads propaganda like y’all receive a news letter of daily talking points with your morning coffee. Think for yourself.
Making of a voting base is a power play and so many are playing the part of a pawn.
More stimulus checks should fix things right up.
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Your right, the country was trying to figure out if it was all a hoax. You had Nancy dancing around in China town, Chuck calling Trump a racist for blocking foreign travel. And then all of a sudden they switch sides... we all know the reason they did a 180... they found an angle, like dirty politicians do. Well, common people are smart enough to recognize this BS and hence a divide was created.
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