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For the Ags taking ivermectin as a Covid preventative:

Lonestar, can you see why people wouldn’t be trusting of our scientific community? Again, I took the vaccine before almost anyone on this site.
*I* cannot b/c I think they’ve done a good job. Have they been prefect? No, but I think they’ve adapted and overall done well.
 
You know who didn’t “follow the science”? The ppl being loaded into refrigerator trucks right now.
 
*I* cannot b/c I think they’ve done a good job. Have they been prefect? No, but I think they’ve adapted and overall done well.

Seems like we all have our preconceived notions and are validated by confirmation bias. I think the vaccine being rolled out so quickly has helped and has been a miracle but I’m not a fan of the messaging, ever changing guidelines and lack of a true mission statement.
 
Seems like we all have our preconceived notions and are validated by confirmation bias. I think the vaccine being rolled out so quickly has helped and has been a miracle but I’m not a fan of the messaging, ever changing guidelines and lack of a true mission statement.
What messaging and mission statement are you are looking for?
 
Lonestar, can you see why people wouldn’t be trusting of our scientific community? Again, I took the vaccine before almost anyone on this site.
I can. Mostly cuz they dumbly decided not to trust western medicine. Not based on fact. But based on their own ability not to trust smart people. But they’re easily swayed by politicians. When political ideals manage your life, you’re not going to make smart decisions in non political areas of your life.
 
There is a as close to 100% way to avoid serious illness & death from covid & I have 0 sympathy for anyone choosing to not take that guarantee at this point.
 
I can. Mostly cuz they dumbly decided not to trust western medicine. Not based on fact. But based on their own ability not to trust smart people. But they’re easily swayed by politicians. When political ideals manage your life, you’re not going to make smart decisions in non political areas of your life.


 
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What messaging and mission statement are you are looking for?

Fauci initially said masks were useless then said we should all wear them.

Fauci in one week said double masking was dumb; then we should double mask then it didn’t make much sense.

CDC director said no more masks and 3 months later said everyone should mask.

CDC director changed school guidelines based on recommendations from teachers unions.

Fauci said we need to mask 2 year olds FFS.

What’s our endpoint? What is the goal? If it’s zero covid that’s a stupid goal.

Why the huge push for vaccinating children when they’re safer than vaccinated adults?

Largely, if we think vaccines work then why are there any restrictions at all? If children have lower death and morbidity rates than the flu than why any restrictions at all?

Everything is about stopping covid and respiratory virus that will not be stopped.
 
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Weird that there is never any media reports of side effects to the vaccine. Surely there are some. OSHA stopped reported them because they didn’t want to promote vaccine hesitancy. Assuming that means there are some anecdotal things we could make headlines with.

Another thing that makes people question the experts when you can’t use rubbing alcohol without an MSDS of what it’s potential harms are but vaccine that’s new to so many seems not worth reporting potential side effects.
 
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It’s true. Ivermectin has been used for decades and is totally safe though. Just like HCQ. Doesn’t mean it helps with Covid but people using it wrong might be the problem. Hmmm, if only robust studies were done to see if they were effective maybe doctors could prescribe them instead of people going to feed stores. Maybe that post didn’t prove the point it was meant to.
 
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There is a as close to 100% way to avoid serious illness & death from covid & I have 0 sympathy for anyone choosing to not take that guarantee at this point.
That is a shockingly callous take LSA...the black community have the lowest vaccination rates by far.

Do you really mean you have zero sympathy for those who lose loved ones or their own life...especially knowing that people of color are disproportionately impacted? I can't believe you truly feel that way...
 
A large number of poison control calls are generated due to ingestion of common over-the-counter cough and cold medications that are recommended by the medical community.

Some poison control call are generated by ingestion of coffee.

Too much of anything may be harmful.
 
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What are the symptoms of an overdose fewer worms.
Dizziness. Higher risk of stroke. Tunnel vision. Seizures. But I can tell you this, I know someone that took a 1050 lb horse dose and had zero symptoms. No medical professionals or poison control officials were concerned.
 
Dizziness. Higher risk of stroke. Tunnel vision. Seizures. But I can tell you this, I know someone that took a 1050 lb horse dose and had zero symptoms. No medical professionals or poison control officials were concerned.
It’s been dosed 30-50 times higher with very little side effects. This molecule won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2015 and has beer touted as the “wonder drug” for treatment and prevention of SARS/ Covid
 
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Really cute. You think facts are going to deter this group. There are studies. This group doesn’t GAF. It’s about, but I took it and it worked. Or my buddy works at this hospital and it works! Zero doctors. Zero facts from medical sources, just anecdotes and yelling. It’s been a while, but I feel like you remember the peer review on here better than that.
 
Only smart people do everything the medical community tells them to. That’s why we have the fattest country on earth and everyone is on antidepressants and metformin. If you disagree with any of it or step out of line you’re just a big weirdo. Remember when leftists were the ones that didn’t trust the establishment? What happened to y’all? You didn’t sell out. You bought in. We have a new god. The Science. By golly don’t question it or even think disparate things could help humanity.
 
if the cdc advised people to only breathe air, about a dozen ay members would drown trying to own the libs.
This is so unfortunate. We would hope we as humans could unite against an enemy, a virus...yet we don't. Everything...and I mean ****ing everything is viewed and discussed along partisan lines.

Each side brandish their talismans demonstrating their purity to cause. Sickening while people suffer from both disease and fear.

We are so hosed...
 
Really cute. You think facts are going to deter this group. There are studies. This group doesn’t GAF. It’s about, but I took it and it worked. Or my buddy works at this hospital and it works! Zero doctors. Zero facts from medical sources, just anecdotes and yelling. It’s been a while, but I feel like you remember the peer review on here better than that.

There you go again with the disingenuous hyperbole so far divorced from reality it borders on outright lying. Numerous doctors and studies indicate the positive efficacy of ivermectin. While not definitive as yet and more study is needed to say there’s no data or doctors or facts from medical sources is 100% false. These things have been cited repeatedly, you just don’t agree with them.

Hell, at this point there’s more proof of the benefits of ivermectin than there is to show masks are effective at preventing or mitigating the spread of covid.
 
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