Losers and suckers

[offshore ag]

Kelly and Mattis didn’t give specifics but both confirmed that they have heard Trump give disparaging comments about veterans in their presence. That’s 2 former 4 star generals saying they believe the Atlantic’s story based on their own experience with Trump.

Donald Trump Trumpets John Kelly Aide Denial to Crush The Atlantic Story

President Donald Trump cited a Breitbart News exclusive to further cast doubt on a report from The Atlantic.

www.breitbart.com

Fuentes spoke with Breitbart News on Monday about the story and denied being a source.

“You can put me on record denying that I spoke with the Atlantic,” Fuentes told Breitbart News on Monday. “I don’t know who the sources are. I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather.”

Fuentes questioned the report that Trump referred to fallen Marines as “losers” and distanced Kelly from the article.

“Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?” he asked Breitbart News.

Exclusive: Zach Fuentes, Top Aide to John Kelly, Denies Atlantic Story About Trump

Former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Zach Fuentes denied to Breitbart News The Atlantic’s account of President Donald Trump’s comments about troops.

www.breitbart.com

Fuentes unequivocally denied The Atlantic’s report last week, a huge blow to the establishment media narrative. Fuentes personally briefed President Trump on the weather situation that led to the trip being canceled. He is also a close personal confidante of former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly.

The fact that Fuentes—Kelly’s closest ally—is now publicly denying the report from The Atlantic is a monstrous strike against the credibility of the report. Several Trump critics, including former National Security Adviser John Bolton, have also denied this happened.

Every person who was allegedly in the room who has spoken up so far has denied the account of what happened. Fuentes’ denial, reported here exclusive on Breitbart News first, deals another strike against The Atlantic’s credibility.

 

[aggies43080]

Breitbart is the definition of fake news. It’s right there with info wars. Alex Jones lost custody of his kids because he admitted in court, under oath, that everything he said on his show was a lie to try and appeal to his base that paid him money.

If you use either of those as your source you have no hope. You are right wing neo nazi or white supremacist. You must also believe like trump said there were good people on both sides of Charlottesville despite only one side killing someone. When people say n word have to go and Jews have to go, I’m sorry but people that say that aren’t good people.

 

[offshore ag]

Breitbart is the definition of fake news.

The articles are full of direct quotes. Are you suggesting they were outright made up?

None of this is relevant:

It’s right there with info wars. Alex Jones lost custody of his kids because he admitted in court, under oath, that everything he said on his show was a lie to try and appeal to his base that paid him money.

If you use either of those as your source you have no hope. You are right wing neo nazi or white supremacist. You must also believe like trump said there were good people on both sides of Charlottesville despite only one side killing someone. When people say n word have to go and Jews have to go, I’m sorry but people that say that aren’t good people.

 

[texasguyto]

You also have the head of the department of homeland security at the time saying she had multiple people call her right after Trump gave those statements. So everyone is lying. Got it. Got those that say even if what Trump said is true, @texasguyto, you have clearly never known someone who has given the ultimate sacrifice because if you did you wouldnt say the things you’ve said

Ummm I’m a war veteran who was a combat medic so I’ve seen people give the ultimate sacrifice while I was the one trying to save their life so I know all about that more than most.

 

[aggies43080]

The people at Breitbart also confirmed Trumps story that their were “good” people on both sides at chartlottville. Are people that say Jews have to go and n word have to go good people. If your answer is yes then you are a racist and a neo Nazi.

 

[texasguyto]

Breitbart is the definition of fake news. It’s right there with info wars. Alex Jones lost custody of his kids because he admitted in court, under oath, that everything he said on his show was a lie to try and appeal to his base that paid him money.

If you use either of those as your source you have no hope. You are right wing neo nazi or white supremacist. You must also believe like trump said there were good people on both sides of Charlottesville despite only one side killing someone. When people say n word have to go and Jews have to go, I’m sorry but people that say that aren’t good people.

Holy ****, you still believe the Charlotteville hoax? Please seek help.

 

[aggies43080]

Ummm I’m a war veteran who was a combat medic so I’ve seen people give the ultimate sacrifice while I was the one trying to save their live so I know all about that more than most.

Then why would you say you would be okay with Trump saying those that gave the ultimate sacrifice are losers. You flat out said earlier you didn’t care if what Trump is accused of saying is true you’d vote for him regardless. My grandfather is a retired brigadier general and will vote Democrat for the first time in his life because of Trump.

 

[aggies43080]

Holy ****, you still believe the Charlotteville hoax? Please seek help.

There is video of them saying what they said and proof of them killing someone. That isn’t rumor it’s fact

 

[texasguyto]

Then why would you say you would be okay with Trump saying those that gave the ultimate sacrifice are losers. You flat out said earlier you didn’t care if what Trump is accused of saying is true you’d vote for him regardless. My grandfather is a retired brigadier general and will vote Democrat for the first time in his life because of Trump.

The dems have lost their ever loving minds is why. I’ll never vote for the dems again in my life after the shit they have pulled this year.

 

[offshore ag]

The people at Breitbart also confirmed Trumps story that their were “good” people on both sides at chartlottville. Are people that say Jews have to go and n word have to go good people. If your answer is yes then you are a racist and a neo Nazi.

What year is it where you are?

Then why would you say you would be okay with Trump saying those that gave the ultimate sacrifice are losers.

How many people remain in the pool of potential “anonymous sources” at this point?

 

[aggies43080]

You’ve lost position as a veteran because every single veteran I know personally is furious with Trump. They see his potential attack on them as being losers for their willingness to sacrifice their lives as losers is insulting. As a veteran yourself to now see this goes against everything veterans have stood for your fellow veterans would give you give you a massive whupp ass because of it.

 

[aggies43080]

It doesn’t matter what anyone on the left believes the fact that trump
Even might believe this, and you’ve even said you don’t care, is insulting

 

[texasguyto]

You’ve lost position as a veteran because every single veteran I know personally is furious with Trump. They see his potential attack on them as being losers for their willingness to sacrifice their lives as losers is insulting. As a veteran yourself to now see this goes against everything veterans have stood for your fellow veterans would give you give you a massive whupp ass because of it.

Lol

 

[offshore ag]

You’ve lost position as a veteran because every single veteran I know personally is furious with Trump. They see his potential attack on them as being losers for their willingness to sacrifice their lives as losers is insulting. As a veteran yourself to now see this goes against everything veterans have stood for your fellow veterans would give you give you a massive whupp ass because of it.

Put a name on a direct quote or shut the fvck up

 

[texasguyto]

It doesn’t matter what anyone on the left believes the fact that trump
Even might believe this, and you’ve even said you don’t care, is insulting

Go **** your self

 

[aggies43080]

Go **** your self

Ask yourself this, how would those who have died sacrificing themselves for this country feel if what Trump is accused of saying turned out to be true. You have said on multiple occasions you don’t care if it’s true or not. How would those people who did commit the ultimate sacrifice feel. My grandfather is 87 years old, a retired brigadier general, and has never voted for a Democrat in his entire life but he will vote for Biden specifically because of how Trump views veterans.

 

[offshore ag]

Ask yourself this, how would those who have died sacrificing themselves for this country feel if what Trump is accused of saying turned out to be true.

What a stupid fvcking question

How are you going to feel
Using dead marines as props if it doesn’t?

 

[aggies43080]

What a stupid fvcking question

How are you going to feel
Using dead marines as props if it isn't?

It’s obviously not a stupid question because people have said they will support trump even if the story is true. That’s an insult to everyone who has died for this country

 

[cstanfld]

This isn’t a verified story and there are many disputing that Trump said it. And those people would have been present. Further, let’s look at how much support the military got in the Obama/Biden administration versus Trump’s and it seems as if Trump is a better friend to the military. Finally, Trump hasn’t started a new war, which may be the greatest gift by not asking people to die for a new foreign conquest.

So putting aside virtue signaling, the argument that veterans shouldn’t vote for Trump because he allegedly said that insulting statement versus the verifiable benefits doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[aggies43080]

This isn’t a verified story and there are many disputing that Trump said it. And those people would have been present. Further, let’s look at how much support the military got in the Obama/Biden administration versus Trump’s and it seems as if Trump is a better friend to the military. Finally, Trump hasn’t started a new war, which may be the greatest gift by not asking people to die for a new foreign conquest.

So putting aside virtue signaling, the argument that veterans shouldn’t vote for Trump because he allegedly said that insulting statement versus the verifiable benefits doesn’t make sense to me.

We spend more than next 10 countries combined in defense spending. Under Obama that number was the next 9 countries. It wasn’t like we drastically cut spending to the military. Trump also lied when he said he gave the military its first raise since W. The Obama administration gave the military a raise every year it was in office. These are things easily verifiable and Trump doesn’t care. He has given 20,000 misleading or flat out lies in his time in office. It’s a record and inexcusable but people feel the need to forgive him anyway.

 

[cstanfld]

We spend more than next 10 countries combined in defense spending. Under Obama that number was the next 9 countries. It wasn’t like we drastically cut spending to the military. Trump also lied when he said he gave the military its first raise since W. The Obama administration gave the military a raise every year it was in office. These are things easily verifiable and Trump doesn’t care. He has given 20,000 misleading or flat out lies in his time in office. It’s a record and inexcusable but people feel the need to forgive him anyway.

The raise issue is more nuanced than that. I found this interesting article.

Troops would see another big pay raise under White House budget plan for 2021

The request calls for a 3.0 percent pay raise starting next January, following a 3.1 percent pay raise this year.

www.militarytimes.com

Also, no dispute Trump didn’t start a new war. I haven’t gone to look at the other points you raised but maybe someone else would like to do so.

 

[aggies43080]

The raise issue is more nuanced than that. I found this interesting article.

Troops would see another big pay raise under White House budget plan for 2021

The request calls for a 3.0 percent pay raise starting next January, following a 3.1 percent pay raise this year.

www.militarytimes.com

Also, no dispute Trump didn’t start a new war. I haven’t gone to look at the other points you raised but maybe someone else would like to do so.

I never once said trump started a war. I said he started the trade war with China which is very different and the reason Iowa is a swing state for the first time since 1996.

 

[cstanfld]

I never once said trump started a war. I said he started the trade war with China which is very different and the reason Iowa is a swing state for the first time since 1996.

I know. That wasn’t my point of that statement. It was that by not starting a war he’s probably done the best thing by not asking the military die in a foreign intervention.

but on the trade war that was necessary. Soy bean prices may have suffered but there are larger concerns at play with China.

 

[aggies43080]

I know. That wasn’t my point of that statement. It was that by not starting a war he’s probably done the best thing by not asking the military die in a foreign intervention.

but on the trade war that was necessary. Soy bean prices may have suffered but there are larger concerns at play with China.

our largest export was soy bean to china and because of Trumps trade war China will never buy soy bean from us ever again

 

[cstanfld]

our largest export was soy bean to china and because of Trumps trade war China will never buy soy bean from us ever again

That’s not true. You’re losing credibility by overreaching. Here’s a recent article.

China Continues to Buy American Soybeans - Farm Policy News

Bloomberg writer Isis Almeida reported on Wednesday that, "China continues to buy American soybeans despite worsening rhetoric from President Donald Trump over Hong Kong."

farmpolicynews.illinois.edu

 

[aggies43080]

That’s not true. You’re losing credibility by overreaching. Here’s a recent article.

China Continues to Buy American Soybeans - Farm Policy News

Bloomberg writer Isis Almeida reported on Wednesday that, "China continues to buy American soybeans despite worsening rhetoric from President Donald Trump over Hong Kong."

farmpolicynews.illinois.edu

Trumps agreement with china on the trade deal Said China had to Spend x amount on US products but gave no specifics on what products. also way to use a repudable site to tell me I’m lying. Farmers are going bankrupt because the long term is causing them no other choice. Again it’s the reason Iowa is a swing state for the first time since 1996.

 

[texasguyto]

It’s obviously not a stupid question because people have said they will support trump even if the story is true. That’s an insult to everyone who has died for this country

The dems are currently destroying our country by throwing a huge hissy fit and with their ridiculous far leftist policies they are embracing.
I guess I'd rather stand with the guy who polices I agree with and the guy who is fighting for the American way of life and American freedom even if he said something mean.
I will never support Marxist and socialist and the crazy shit they are trying to pull.

 

[Thepassag]

Go ahead, google it.

John Bolton wa

Go ahead, google it.

John Bolton was there every minute of the trip. He hates Trump. He also says this NEVER HAPPENED. John Bolton also says you’re full of BS. Google it!

 

[aggies43080]

The dems are currently destroying our country by throwing a huge hissy fit and with their ridiculous far leftist policies they are embracing.
I guess I'd rather stand with the guy who polices I agree with and the guy who is fighting for the American way of life and American freedom even if he said something mean.
I will never support Marxist and socialist and the crazy shit they are trying to pull.

Yes because everyone running supports communism. You are a fraud. Everyone you have served with would Be ashamed that you would agree with someone saying they were a loser for sacrificing themselves for their country. Im done with this site and everyone in it.

 

[texasguyto]

As far as China goes, Trump is trying to start the process of our country getting away from reliance on China.
Trump is anti globalist and that’s why so many in Washington hate him and have been out to get him from the beginning.

 

[texasguyto]

Yes because everyone running supports communism. You are a fraud. Everyone you have served with would Be ashamed that you would agree with someone saying they were a loser for sacrificing themselves for their country. Im done with this site and everyone in it.

Lol I’m in contact with many people I served with and every single one of them supports Trump as far as the know.
If they don’t they sure as hell still respect me and haven’t told me I’m wrong for feeling that way.
You’re a clown.

Oh, and if you’re supporting the current dem platform you support socialism. If you don’t believe me then go read it.

 

[cstanfld]

Trumps agreement with china on the trade deal Said China had to Spend x amount on US products but gave no specifics on what products. also way to use a repudable site to tell me I’m lying. Farmers are going bankrupt because the long term is causing them no other choice. Again it’s the reason Iowa is a swing state for the first time since 1996.

What are you talking about? Take a breath and try to think for a second. It's a verifiable fact that China is in fact buying soybeans right now. You'd have been more credible just sticking with lowered sales and noting that is hurting farmers. But you went for the full "they'll NEVER buy again." And that's false. Another source: https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/ytd-u-s-soybean-sales-to-china-lowest-in-5-years

Also, trade deal is off to an uneven start so that would have been a fair point to make. But not all farmers are going bankrupt and furthermore, we can't make decisions just for the farmers who sold primarily to China. Many others have lost their livelihood or were pushed from middle class good paying manufacturing jobs to lower paying jobs if any still exist in their communities because of shipping jobs to China.

 

[aggies43080]

Interesting since since every person I know that served in the military is appalled by Trumps possible comments. You have made it quite clear you don’t care if they’re true, I support that health insurance is a right that every American citizen should be given. Would love to hear the Communist policies you think will come into place with Biden as president. Just as an added bonus in the 50’s with Eisenhower as Presiden, at the height of our economic power, our highest tax bracket got as high as 90 percent.

 

[cstanfld]

Interesting since since every person I know that served in the military is appalled by Trumps possible comments. You have made it quite clear you don’t care if they’re true, I support that health insurance is a right that every American citizen should be given. Would love to hear the Communist policies you think will come into place with Biden as president. Just as an added bonus in the 50’s with Eisenhower as Presiden, at the height of our economic power, our highest tax bracket got as high as 90 percent.

We all know a lot of military people who served and most that I know support Trump. I haven't talked to them about this in the last few days, but I also bet they'd find those "possible comments" abhorrent. Doesn't mean they believe they're true.

But if we want an entire group of people to change their vote based on abhorrent comments, then I think the videotaped comments of Joe Biden telling American blacks how to think and vote purely based on skin color would be a start. As an old white man who per the teachings of Critical Race Theory is inherently racist, he shouldn't say such things and should be punished for not understanding his White Privilege to believe he's owed their votes.

 

[aggies43080]

We all know a lot of military people who served and most that I know support Trump. I haven't talked to them about this in the last few days, but I also bet they'd find those "possible comments" abhorrent. Doesn't mean they believe they're true.

But if we want an entire group of people to change their vote based on abhorrent comments, then I think the videotaped comments of Joe Biden telling American blacks how to think and vote purely based on skin color would be a start. As an old white man who per the teachings of Critical Race Theory is inherently racist, he shouldn't say such things and should be punished for not understanding his White Privilege to believe he's owed their votes.

My point is that texasguto doesn’t care if they’re true. He point blank said that even if theyre true he would still support trump which flies in the face of everything there sacrifice went.

 

[texasguyto]

My point is that texasguto doesn’t care if they’re true. He point blank said that even if theyre true he would still support trump which flies in the face of everything there sacrifice went.

So I should just support everything I don’t agree with because Trump might have said something mean?
I should just support to bullshit I’m seeing happening around our country right now because Trump might have said something mean?
Yeah, I’ll just pass on that.

 

[cstanfld]

My point is that texasguto doesn’t care if they’re true. He point blank said that even if theyre true he would still support trump which flies in the face of everything there sacrifice went.

Guyto and others fought so that people could think and vote freely. I’m not sure the point of your trying to change his mind. And most people don’t vote based on a single comment someone made as opposed to looking wholistically at what that person’s agenda would do for the country

 

[aggies43080]

We all know a lot of military people who served and most that I know support Trump. I haven't talked to them about this in the last few days, but I also bet they'd find those "possible comments" abhorrent. Doesn't mean they believe they're true.

But if we want an entire group of people to change their vote based on abhorrent comments, then I think the videotaped comments of Joe Biden telling American blacks how to think and vote purely based on skin color would be a start. As an old white man who per the teachings of Critical Race Theory is inherently racist, he shouldn't say such things and should be punished for not understanding his White Privilege to believe he's owed their votes.

biden saying that if they vote for trump they aren’t really black is wrong. People saying biden is a communiat are also wrong. Our country was founded on the sacrifices of those to help create this independent country. To even contemplate that the president of the United States of America Could make those statements is not only unamerican but flag out wrong makes me sick to my stomach. But as some of you said what different does it make if it’s true or not.

 

[cstanfld]

biden saying that if they vote for trump they aren’t really black is wrong. People saying biden is a communiat are also wrong. Our country was founded on the sacrifices of those to help create this independent country. To even contemplate that the president of the United States of America Could make those statements is not only unamerican but flag out wrong makes me sick to my stomach. But as some of you said what different does it make if it’s true or not.

What’s the line for a statement being wrong versus so wrong that the entire group commented on should vote a certain way? This is a worthless point with Trump because it will never be proven and in fact the greater weight of evidence is that he didn’t say it.

 

[aggies43080]

So I should just support everything I don’t agree with because Trump might have said something mean?
I should just support to bullshit I’m seeing happening around our country right now because Trump might have said something mean?
Yeah, I’ll just pass on that.

You flat out said that you didnt care if he said it or not. I don’t know if he said it but it makes a big fvcking deal wether or not he did, for you as a service men to say you flat out don’t care wether or not trump said that those whom sacrificEd their lives for this country are losers and meaningless is shameful.