Ok so would you say you are neither for nor against the vaccine…rather undecided? If so, I’m curious at if you have a point we’re there will be enough data for you to make the call?
For the Ags taking ivermectin as a Covid preventative:
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What Is Ivermectin?
Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasite medication, discovered in 1978 by biologist, William C. Campbell. In 2015, Dr. Campbell was awarded a Nobel Prize in medicine based on the worldwide impact Ivermectin had made in reducing parasitic diseases.
Studies in numerous countries throughout the world have demonstrated that Ivermectin also inhibits the coronavirus causing COVID-19 by 99.8% within the first 24 hours, as well as inhibiting the flu virus. These studies have demonstrated that patients with COVID-19, who are treated with Ivermectin, experience significantly milder symptoms, and a shorter duration of illness. Ivermectin has dramatically decreased the fatality rate in the infirm and elderly who have contracted this disease. The earlier Ivermectin is given in the course of an illness, the better the outcome.
Unfortunately, unlike the 1980s, when Ivermectin was mass produced and widely distributed to cure parasitic diseases, it has largely gone unrecognized in the United States as an effective medication to prevent and treat COVID-19. This is unfortunate, because our research and the use of Ivermectin at our Center has proven it to be a safe, well tolerated and effective way to prevent COVID-19.
Even if you consider yourself healthy and are not worried about COVID-19, it seems to make sense to take Ivermectin to prevent contracting it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasite medication, discovered in 1978 by biologist, William C. Campbell. In 2015, Dr. Campbell was awarded a Nobel Prize in medicine based on the worldwide impact Ivermectin had made in reducing parasitic diseases.
Studies in numerous countries throughout the world have demonstrated that Ivermectin also inhibits the coronavirus causing COVID-19 by 99.8% within the first 24 hours, as well as inhibiting the flu virus. These studies have demonstrated that patients with COVID-19, who are treated with Ivermectin, experience significantly milder symptoms, and a shorter duration of illness. Ivermectin has dramatically decreased the fatality rate in the infirm and elderly who have contracted this disease. The earlier Ivermectin is given in the course of an illness, the better the outcome.
Unfortunately, unlike the 1980s, when Ivermectin was mass produced and widely distributed to cure parasitic diseases, it has largely gone unrecognized in the United States as an effective medication to prevent and treat COVID-19. This is unfortunate, because our research and the use of Ivermectin at our Center has proven it to be a safe, well tolerated and effective way to prevent COVID-19.
Even if you consider yourself healthy and are not worried about COVID-19, it seems to make sense to take Ivermectin to prevent contracting it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Maybe when people quit telling him to take it and he can act like it was his idea to get vaccinated.
I'm not a doctor, but understood this drug was for cows and horses. The only people taking it are jackasses. Get vaccinated. Follow science, not conspiracy theories.
Aren't you kind of doing what you're getting onto others for doing?
Apparently he knows everything already.
More than 150 employees resign or are fired from Houston hospital system after refusing to get vaccinated
Houston Methodist was one of the nation’s first health systems to impose a coronavirus vaccine mandate.www.texastribune.org
This was at Houston Methodist. Alone.
Surprised you were not up to date on this.
Once again, this is wholly incorrect. Ivermectin was developed and is widely used in humans and has been for 40 years. It was developed as an anti-parasitic and first used vs. tropical parasites which cause diseases such as river blindness. However, it has also shown anti-viral properties and been used vs. tropical viruses like dengue, Zika, and yellow fever. This is what led to the theory of its usefulness vs. covid and the ongoing testing.
But, yes, it is widely used as an anti-parasitic in veterinary medicine. There are actually tons of medications which are used in people and veterinary medicine though with different concentrations. This is where some of the issues have arisen is that somebody that weighs 200 pounds takes ivermectin in a dose formulated for a 1000 pound horse.
And no, "jackasses" are not the only people taking it. There are a lot of doctors in the USA prescribing it, plenty of intelligent and educated people who have looked at the data, and of course the millions of people in Third World countries who do not have access to the vaccines.
As I've said repeatedly, I'm not advocating for or against the usage, only an honest discussion of the data and ongoing studies. If somebody cannot understand why a person wouldn't prefer to try a medicine with well-known risks from use on humans for 40 years vs. a new technology (I'm pretty sure the covid vaccines are the first mRNA vaccines produced and used on humans), especially when a person is relatively low-risk with covid then that speaks more to your shortcomings than that person's.
I’m for the vaccine for some people. I was all for my father and mother-in-law getting vaccinated. I’m not so certain for myself at my age
It’s pretty likely I’ve got the Covid right now. I tested negative today but my wife and kid have it. I think I just don’t have enough viral load to test positive yet. If I do have it and by some miracle I survive, I certainly won’t be taking the vaccine.
I’m not a veterinarian, but I understand that penicillin is used in a wide variety of animals.
Oh, and you’re a jackass.
"Follow Science" so tired of you dipshits using that term and you don't have any understanding of the scientific process or limitations of clinical trials. Most of you dickheads read a ****ing headline and a summary from a barely literate journalist without reading the actual research and try to beat others over the head with it, like LSA's idiotic assertion that the vaccine is better than natural antibodies (and the article he linked was comparing only reinfection rates...).
Are they exposing people to COVID to test Ivermectin as a prophylaxis? No because that would be an unethical trial to put people in danger like that. Sometimes it's ok to look at real world evidence and application. The below doesn't PROVE anything but it's pretty strong evidence that we should take a longer look at Ivermectin.
Haven't been on this abortion of a thread for a week but in case anybody hasn't discussed it:
INDIA-
They started a nationwide Ivermectin distribution in late May to use as a prophylaxis. Uttar Pradesh, their largest province and roughly 2/3 the population of the US- had 7 cases yesterday. 7!!!
It gets better, neighboring provinces that rejected the Ivermectin protocol have had daily case numbers in the thousands. All of the provinces that followed the Ivermectin protocol saw a significant drop in daily cases.
Haven't seen much mainstream coverage of this but it's a pretty big deal that deserves a closer look.
to further add to the conspiratorial side of this, do a google search for Covid in India. Lots of articles from April and May when it was spiking, and virtually nothing after they started the ivermectin…
Another statement made out of ignorance. This has been approved for human usage for decades
Always good to see threads like this to understand who the true crazies are.
Here's some information from an article on the website of a usually reliable source, The People's Pharmacy:
“Ivermectin, under the brand name Mectizan for human use, will turn the tide in this battle (used for River Blindness). It kills the parasite at the microfilaria stage before it harms the eye. By taking Mectizan, people can save their sight and prevent transmission. A single dose is good for six months or more, so one or two pills a year should be enough.
The article continues:
Africa. It protects dogs against heartworm. Does it work against COVID?
Could Drug for Parasites Also Fight Coronavirus?
July 20, 2021
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We started writing about the drug IVERMECTIN against COVID-19 back in April, 2020. That’s because Australian researchers reported that this drug for parasites had strong antiviral activity vs. the coronavirus. That was test tube research (Antiviral Research, April 3, 2020). More than a year has passed, and like nearly everything else associated with the pandemic, views on ivermectin became polarized. The time has come for an update and some inside information.
Now, however, the scientific reports are starting to appear. A group of British scientists have published a systematic review and meta-analysis of ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 (American Journal of Therapeutics, online June 17, 2021). They examined 15 trials and found that people given ivermectin were less likely to die from COVID-19 than those who did not take the drug. Ivermectin also appeared to prevent infection with the coronavirus, but that evidence is far weaker.
As with any medications relating to Covid therapeutic drugs, it's always best to ask your doctor if taking it is better than being vaccinated. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
“Ivermectin, under the brand name Mectizan for human use, will turn the tide in this battle (used for River Blindness). It kills the parasite at the microfilaria stage before it harms the eye. By taking Mectizan, people can save their sight and prevent transmission. A single dose is good for six months or more, so one or two pills a year should be enough.
The article continues:
Africa. It protects dogs against heartworm. Does it work against COVID?
Could Drug for Parasites Also Fight Coronavirus?
July 20, 2021
23 Comments
We started writing about the drug IVERMECTIN against COVID-19 back in April, 2020. That’s because Australian researchers reported that this drug for parasites had strong antiviral activity vs. the coronavirus. That was test tube research (Antiviral Research, April 3, 2020). More than a year has passed, and like nearly everything else associated with the pandemic, views on ivermectin became polarized. The time has come for an update and some inside information.
A Drug For Parasites Vs. COVID-19?
Some advocates were in favor of using ivermectin immediately and widely to treat people with COVID-19. Others, possibly more skeptical, wanted to hold out for well-conducted clinical studies. But randomized controlled trials require time to be done properly. In a race against the SARS-CoV-2 virus it wasn’t clear we’d have that time.Now, however, the scientific reports are starting to appear. A group of British scientists have published a systematic review and meta-analysis of ivermectin for preventing and treating COVID-19 (American Journal of Therapeutics, online June 17, 2021). They examined 15 trials and found that people given ivermectin were less likely to die from COVID-19 than those who did not take the drug. Ivermectin also appeared to prevent infection with the coronavirus, but that evidence is far weaker.
The researchers concluded:
Another review in the same journal was conducted by investigators who have been unabashed cheerleaders for the drug. They reviewed 18 randomized controlled trials of ivermectin and concluded that it is effective in all phases of COVID-19 (American Journal of Therapeutics, May-June 2021).
As with any medications relating to Covid therapeutic drugs, it's always best to ask your doctor if taking it is better than being vaccinated. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
I don't get the push against any prophylactics and threaputics here.
Look at the flu, you get your shot, that if it doesn't work will reduce the length of illness and severity of impact, and you take a therapeutic, Tamiflu.
IT could very well be you get the vaccine, it provides a quasi-prophylactic response, reducing the severity of the illness, and then a therapeutic like ivermectin (if found effective).
Why do people want only one tool in our arsenal, when we might have multiple? We should be testing any known medicines that have anti-viral properties.
Its so baffling to me, this crazy pandemic has half the country scared, yet they won't even acknowledge other options or additional options for early treatment and preventative measures other than the vaccine. It's actually anti-science.
I will say though buying ivermectin from Tractor Supply and taking it on your own is kinda weird, I wouldn't ever do that, but to each their own. Shouldn't do that without talking to your doctor though and possibly still getting the vax. But you do you.
I had it, had the Pfizer jabs, take D3 2000 iu daily, plus 20 minutes of sunshine, exercise daily and have zinc on standby. That's more than enough for me to be fine maskless and out and about.
Look at the flu, you get your shot, that if it doesn't work will reduce the length of illness and severity of impact, and you take a therapeutic, Tamiflu.
IT could very well be you get the vaccine, it provides a quasi-prophylactic response, reducing the severity of the illness, and then a therapeutic like ivermectin (if found effective).
Why do people want only one tool in our arsenal, when we might have multiple? We should be testing any known medicines that have anti-viral properties.
Its so baffling to me, this crazy pandemic has half the country scared, yet they won't even acknowledge other options or additional options for early treatment and preventative measures other than the vaccine. It's actually anti-science.
I will say though buying ivermectin from Tractor Supply and taking it on your own is kinda weird, I wouldn't ever do that, but to each their own. Shouldn't do that without talking to your doctor though and possibly still getting the vax. But you do you.
I had it, had the Pfizer jabs, take D3 2000 iu daily, plus 20 minutes of sunshine, exercise daily and have zinc on standby. That's more than enough for me to be fine maskless and out and about.
those numbers from india are less reliable than drinking water drawn from the ganges.
some of you guys pick strange people and things to trust.
some of you guys pick strange people and things to trust.
Doesn’t work on whips and marginal efficacy on hooks. Which is why commercial Heartworm meds have pyrantel added.
Easy to think that on the surface but doubtful. If there was an error it was underestimating their peak due to unreported cases because of a lack of medical attention for the sick.
There's a pretty big difference going from 30k+ daily cases to double digits for the past month or two that's not just bad data and they are lifting restrictions so that should indicate the numbers are good.
Some of you guys go to great lengths to stick your head in the sand when something challenges your preconceived conclusion.
Well shit this does not look good.
An infectivity-enhancing site on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein targeted by antibodies
A subset of antibodies detected in patients with severe COVID-19 target a specific region of the N-terminal domain of the spike protein and enhance binding of the virus to the ACE2 receptor.
www.cell.com
Well shit this does not look good.
An infectivity-enhancing site on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein targeted by antibodies
A subset of antibodies detected in patients with severe COVID-19 target a specific region of the N-terminal domain of the spike protein and enhance binding of the virus to the ACE2 receptor.www.cell.com
What does that mean?
Its just a study but TLDR, the antibodies from the vaccines in the study are not binding correctly and are acting as enhancers. Antibody Dependent Enchancment is a known issue with viruses in general and can occur naturally, as seen with some other viruses like Dengue fever.
Esentally the antibody is making it easier for the virus to enter the cells and can cause an increased, often overboard, reaction from the immune system.
This is just one study, though troublesome, would need follow up studies to know how often this actually occurs. I wouldn’t say it’s cause for concern yet, without collaborating studies.
But can’t trust the US medical community
They’re liberals trying to harm Republicans
he’s a quack.
www.factcheck.org
Idaho Doctor Makes Baseless Claims About Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org
A viral video features a doctor making dubious claims about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments at a forum hosted by Idaho's lieutenant governor. Dr. Ryan Cole claims mRNA vaccines cause cancer and autoimmune diseases, but the lead author of the paper on which Cole based that claim told us there is...
www.factcheck.org
Factcheck lol, that garbage isn't the least bit independent. Not saying anything about the guy, might be a quack but fact check sites have been shown to be absolute untrustworthy garbage.he’s a quack.
Idaho Doctor Makes Baseless Claims About Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org
A viral video features a doctor making dubious claims about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments at a forum hosted by Idaho's lieutenant governor. Dr. Ryan Cole claims mRNA vaccines cause cancer and autoimmune diseases, but the lead author of the paper on which Cole based that claim told us there is...
On the topic of Ivermectin another group of physicians FLCCC are in support of it. These guys also advocated use of steroids early in the pandemic and were originally ignored. Steroids are now part of the standard treatment and are highly effective. Being right about steroids doesn't validate their opinion on Ivermectin but is an example of how those shouted down by "experts" should not be dismissed offhand.
The “my secret smart club” knows better mentality on this thread is unreal. If any of this was true in India, it would be celebrated and used worldwide. Tons and tons of rich people are losing billions of dollars on all this. It’s not controlled by anyone. Living your life like that must be really stressful
Trust da staff.
We have the political equivalent of Fran in charge of this shit. You do realize Fauci is responsible for this right? Not in a conspiratorial way, in a doing dumb shit way. This scenario has been warned about for decades regarding gain of function research and yet he supported and funded it including direct funding of the Wuhan lab via NIH grants.
Don't attribute to malice that which can be more easily explained by incompetence.
This entire process has been completely mismanaged from start to present.
Hey I wholeheartedly disagree with you, but Fing love you tried to relate to my previous pain and suffering by saying “he will not be named” in this thread.
Met that dude at a coach meet and greet in NYC and he was the most boring, least charismatic womp womp of a human. Then he sucked and did all the stupid ass things like newsletters……oh I see what you mean! There is a secret Aggie newsletter with medical advice. Sign me up. I have been sold
WINTER IS COMING
Arkansas and Alabama officials said this week their states were completely out of ICU beds.
Arkansas and Alabama officials said this week their states were completely out of ICU beds.
In Kentucky, Gov. Andy Beshear said record COVID hospitalizations were forcing some hospitals to convert space to treat the influx of ICU patients.
In Florida, 94% of ICRU beds are full. Nearly 50 hospitals reported critical staffing shortages, and almost 60 more said they anticipate critical staffing shortages by the end of the week.
North Texas hospitals may begin to prioritize vaccinated patients over the unvaccinated, Forbes reported last week.
Idaho, Nevada and Illinois are also nearing ICU capacity limits.
Arkansas and Alabama officials said this week their states were completely out of ICU beds.
Arkansas and Alabama officials said this week their states were completely out of ICU beds.
In Kentucky, Gov. Andy Beshear said record COVID hospitalizations were forcing some hospitals to convert space to treat the influx of ICU patients.
In Florida, 94% of ICRU beds are full. Nearly 50 hospitals reported critical staffing shortages, and almost 60 more said they anticipate critical staffing shortages by the end of the week.
North Texas hospitals may begin to prioritize vaccinated patients over the unvaccinated, Forbes reported last week.
Idaho, Nevada and Illinois are also nearing ICU capacity limits.
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