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How can the CDC be trusted on anything, ever.
How can the CDC be trusted on anything, ever.
Why is this not a bigger story? Clearly if you’re sick, have underlying health conditions or simply over 80 years old, you should probably still quarantine as best you can.
C'mon Catorano - this is an incredibly misleading thread. At least be honest about what your link says. It says that in 6% of deaths, Covid was the ONLY cause. Are you guys really going to sit here and ignore everything the CDC has been saying from the beginning that comorbidities exacerbate things for you? Or are you taking the position that every one of these would have died this year at this time had they not gotten covid?
C'mon Catorano - this is an incredibly misleading thread. At least be honest about what your link says. It says that in 6% of deaths, Covid was the ONLY cause. Are you guys really going to sit here and ignore everything the CDC has been saying from the beginning that comorbidities exacerbate things for you? Or are you taking the position that every one of these would have died this year at this time had they not gotten covid?
No you don’t.I don't trust @Reckless75, I don't trust @catorano. I only trust the Illuminati and their twisted vision of a conspiratorial future. I jest.
You can make a very strong argument that those comorbidity cases would have died if they contracted the flu virus.C'mon Catorano - this is an incredibly misleading thread. At least be honest about what your link says. It says that in 6% of deaths, Covid was the ONLY cause. Are you guys really going to sit here and ignore everything the CDC has been saying from the beginning that comorbidities exacerbate things for you? Or are you taking the position that every one of these would have died this year at this time had they not gotten covid?
Well, I don't know why you think your link helps your case... but its doesn't. If you want an asterisk, I'll say again that everyone in the country knows that secondary illnesses make you more at risk. half the country couldn't spell comorbidity before this year. I'll say it again: to post this as proof that only 6% of the people who died was due to Covid is incredibly dishonest. And you know it.Right. This is misleading. The people saying 154,000 dead with no context are the ones that aren’t being misleading.
You know most people don't die of AIDS right? Even in when it was a much bigger deal in the 80s - I'd say a great majority of them died from simple infections you or I could fight off any day of the year. You have a problem with us stating AIDS killed them?Only positive news is misleading. Now we can turn our attention to the 2 kids that died of covid and not mention they had other issues.
False equivalence - AIDS destroys the immune system and is the underlying cause. With these deaths the comorbity is the underlying cause and COVID is more akin to the simple infections in your example.You know most people don't die of AIDS right? Even in when it was a much bigger deal in the 80s - I'd say a great majority of them died from simple infections you or I could fight off any day of the year. You have a problem with us stating AIDS killed them?
False equivalence - AIDS destroys the immune system and is the underlying cause. With these deaths the comorbity is the underlying cause and COVID is more akin to the simple infections in your example.
We didn’t voluntarily decimate the world economy because of AIDS.You know most people don't die of AIDS right? Even in when it was a much bigger deal in the 80s - I'd say a great majority of them died from simple infections you or I could fight off any day of the year. You have a problem with us stating AIDS killed them?
Yep.. so is New York Senior Care facility.Is old age a pre existing condition?
That's a fair point if true, did not look at the chart before posting, quite a few pneumonia/flu and respiratory failure cases. I had interpreted the comorbidity angle to mean at risk due to underlying conditions.False. The chart is not exclusive to pre-existing conditions and can include conditions developed after contracting the virus.
It’s a demographic that should be cautious with the virus as the facts have shown us.Is old age a pre existing condition?
That's a fair point if true, did not look at the chart before posting, quite a few pneumonia/flu and respiratory failure cases. I had interpreted the comorbidity angle to mean at risk due to underlying conditions.
If this was broken down to pre-existing only that might be more informative.
And this is the problem.....as many suspected, these data show that COVID isn’t even as bad as the flu....we clearly don’t shut down the country during flu season.....but hell, maybe we can in the future.You can make a very strong argument that those comorbidity cases would have died if they contracted the flu virus.
Right. This is misleading. The people saying 154,000 dead with no context are the ones that aren’t being misleading.
You shared a Q’s twitter to prove your point. Hope this was an oversight
You know most people don't die of AIDS right? Even in when it was a much bigger deal in the 80s - I'd say a great majority of them died from simple infections you or I could fight off any day of the year. You have a problem with us stating AIDS killed them?
You shared a Q’s twitter to prove your point. Hope this was an oversight
Can you? What year did 160k Americans die of the flu? Are these comorbidities all new?You can make a very strong argument that those comorbidity cases would have died if they contracted the flu virus.
Define isn’t even as bad.And this is the problem.....as many suspected, these data show that COVID isn’t even as bad as the flu....we clearly don’t shut down the country during flu season.....but hell, maybe we can in the future.