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Tuition for Undocumented College Students

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A judge ruled that out of state students at UNT cannot be charged more than what UNT is charging for undocumented immigrants. That's likely to change the rules for all Texas state schools if it holds on appeal.

The University of North Texas can no longer charge out-of-state students higher tuition than undocumented students who qualify as in-state residents, according to a federal judge’s ruling last week. The ruling could affect public universities across the state and place the “Noriega Bill,” a 2001 Texas law that allows undocumented Texas residents to pay in-state rates, as a barrier to charging out-of-state tuition.

The lawsuit pointed to the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, a federal law that says migrants living in the country unlawfully can’t qualify for “any postsecondary education benefit” unless the same benefit is made available to all U.S. citizens regardless of their residence.

Although UNT was the only university sued, public universities across Texas follow the same state laws, and the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board is responsible for calculating the annual nonresident tuition rate. On Sunday, UNT’s lawyers appealed Jordan’s decision. If the ruling is upheld, universities across the state could be barred from charging out-of-state fees in upcoming academic semesters, potentially losing millions in revenue. This could lead the state legislature to end in-state tuition for undocumented students, a benefit that Republican lawmakers have tried to end as recently as last year.
 
This has been going on for a long time. The idiots driving the boat are asleep at the wheel. Whether you are liberal, conservative, independent, libertarian, black, white, brown, etc, it is having an impact. I’m open to hearing different points of view so explain to me how this is a good thing for our country.
 
A judge ruled that out of state students at UNT cannot be charged more than what UNT is charging for undocumented immigrants. That's likely to change the rules for all Texas state schools if it holds on appeal.

The University of North Texas can no longer charge out-of-state students higher tuition than undocumented students who qualify as in-state residents, according to a federal judge’s ruling last week. The ruling could affect public universities across the state and place the “Noriega Bill,” a 2001 Texas law that allows undocumented Texas residents to pay in-state rates, as a barrier to charging out-of-state tuition.

The lawsuit pointed to the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, a federal law that says migrants living in the country unlawfully can’t qualify for “any postsecondary education benefit” unless the same benefit is made available to all U.S. citizens regardless of their residence.

Although UNT was the only university sued, public universities across Texas follow the same state laws, and the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board is responsible for calculating the annual nonresident tuition rate. On Sunday, UNT’s lawyers appealed Jordan’s decision. If the ruling is upheld, universities across the state could be barred from charging out-of-state fees in upcoming academic semesters, potentially losing millions in revenue. This could lead the state legislature to end in-state tuition for undocumented students, a benefit that Republican lawmakers have tried to end as recently as last year.
That’s exciting
 
There is an argument that an educated child of an illegal immigrant is a better path than keeping them out of higher education and a chance to better the family situation.

if sending them back isn’t a real option then why wouldn’t you want them as prepared as possible to contribute?
 
Just make em citizens. Problem solved.
I am totally agreement that we need immigration reform. The path to citizenship should be easier and free. This should apply to everyone and not just people south of our border. Work permits should not be so complicate and easy and free to get. This would eliminate a lot of people trying to come to our country illegally. However, I disagree with you on just make them citizens. DIdnt Ronald Reagan just give something like 3 million citizenship? That is not the way to do it. Pass immigration reform as I mentioned above. I think we are the only country where the average citizen doesnt view illegal people in our country as breaking the law.
 
There is an argument that an educated child of an illegal immigrant is a better path than keeping them out of higher education and a chance to better the family situation.

if sending them back isn’t a real option then why wouldn’t you want them as prepared as possible to contribute?

because that is giving up on America. Send them all back now, enter the country legally. The flood of illegals has to stop.
 
Make it legal. Problem solved.
You keep saying these two things like they are the same or are connected. They are not.

There's an argument to "make them legal". But even winning that argument does not come close to making the "problem solved".

You're basically like the Bobs on Office Space: "We uh, fixed the glitch."
 
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because that is giving up on America. Send them all back now, enter the country legally. The flood of illegals has to stop.
Your last statement I agree with. We have to stop the flood or we will not be a country any longer. Build the wall.

but “send them all back” just isn’t going to happen. We need a path to citizenship for those that are here and a guest worker visa program.

but on the college admission, these kids have gone through in many cases their entire K- high school career in Texas public high schools. The ones applying to A&M made good grades and have high SAT scores.
 
If you come here illegally you are persona non grata and we owe you nothing
what about the 2 year old kid that the parents came over illegally? Not saying we owe them anything, but that 2 year old didn't really have a say in things. Most of the kids that end up going to the university didn't wade across the river last year. They have grown up here
 
Just so you know one of the main backers of the tuition for illegal bills, and the person who signed the bill, was Rick Perry.
 
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Nope. Kicks the can down the road.
Unrestricted immigration kicks the can down the road. How about addressing AND FIXING whatever is wrong in these folks' home countries that makes them want to come to the United States. Ever thought about that?
 
Should’ve put Rosa Parks in jail too, amirite?
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There is an argument that an educated child of an illegal immigrant is a better path than keeping them out of higher education and a chance to better the family situation.

if sending them back isn’t a real option then why wouldn’t you want them as prepared as possible to contribute

There is the big question that no one touches!

Please explain why you can’t send them back?
 
Make it legal. Problem solved.
Not true..

As someone that lives in CT, I can legally move to the state of Texas . So if you make it legal anyone can move legally to the state of Texas. That within itself does not qualify either party to receive in state Tuition. Hence the ruling from the judge. Which makes total sense.
 
Just so you know one of the main backers of the tuition for illegal bills, and the person who signed the bill, was Rick Perry.
Well conservatives unlike Liberals have no problem pointing out leaders F'ups. Some still report that Biden is doing a great job... WTF is wrong with them. And somehow he still managed to pick a VP that makes him look good in comparison.
 
There is an argument that an educated child of an illegal immigrant is a better path than keeping them out of higher education and a chance to better the family situation.

if sending them back isn’t a real option then why wouldn’t you want them as prepared as possible to contribute?
That sounds good...on paper. However, what you end up doing under the present rules is penalizing US citizens for being citizens, and rewarding and favoring illegal immigrants over US citizens.

I don't see how that kind of governing philosophy leads anywhere except towards destruction.
 
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