All of this is true. It has all been said by Dr. Fauci. Also has been on CDC website. Biden has also said the same thing.
Mask mandates coming back...??
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Nope. Not going to wear a mask. The commies can kiss your ass.
My daughter attended an Abbott speech today. She said he said, no masks and no shutdowns.
The Biden team knows it will burn out with minimal damage. What they are doing is demanding masks, so when it does abate, they can claim credit. Everything is political. No science justifies these mandates.
BTW, the CDC hasn’t released any study justifying masks. They are pulling it out of their asses due to political pressure. The CDC has lost its credibility as an independent health advisory.
Sorry to hear this for you. I am not in the same opinion though. I don't think we are being told the whole story on this thing. Hard to tell what is what but when you have info being hidden and suppressed you know there is more to the story. And the mandatory Vacc thing isn't the path because there will be a lot of liberties taken which will give those in power thinking they can do it for something else. Very dangerous and scary to think they are so open to this so quickly.
Can we please add Covid/masking to the political board? These threads are a beat down of division
Watch the news. I gave you the sources, it shouldn't be that hard for you to look up. It was on the news just yesterday. I am only repeating what Dr. Fauci , Biden, CDC, WHO , have said since covid-19 has been here. Biden yesterday told you that those that are vaccinated can still spread covid-19. We were also told masks do not stop you from getting covid-19, they are to keep you from spreading covid-19. Now they are telling everyone to wear a mask, so if the vaccine works why do those that are vaccinated have to wear a mask?
They’re not rising uniformly across the US. It’s in pockets and generally in states where the population fears the vaccination.
We got an activist over here. LMAO.
I do not work for the border patrol. But I do support them.
Whatever it is you’re doing isn’t working, by the way.
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I’m not into government mandates. But the high rate of vaccine phobias keep the mandate (vaccine or mask) discussion on the table. Louisiana is not even at 40%. Vaccinations are crazy low.
We are given a smart medical option living in the USA. And we politicize it to our detriment.
Somehow this country made a vaccine the enemy of the state on the logic that despite a disease killing the most people we’ve seen in our lifetimes (taken into account time)….it doesn’t kill “everybody.” And we’ve convinced ourselves the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease.
That’s the genius at work here aka uphill battle.
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If you think vaccine reluctance is purely a right vs. left issue, you aren't paying attention or are being misinformed. There are people on both sides of the aisle who aren't getting the shot.
Also: this is never going away even with 100% vaccination. It's a virus; they mutate, becoming more contagious but less deadly over time.
Note: my second dose was in early March; I have other risk factors (as does my wife) so we got it early.
Also: this is never going away even with 100% vaccination. It's a virus; they mutate, becoming more contagious but less deadly over time.
Note: my second dose was in early March; I have other risk factors (as does my wife) so we got it early.
Bingo. This is the correct answer. This virus will never be eradicated but will become similar to the flu overtime
They have to get another election out of this.
Don't open them. Please don't comment. Thanks,
It's not a left vs right. It's a vaccine that has been show to not prevent covid. This said vaccine is also not approved by the FDA. If you fell like signing up for the human trial that is your choice. Explain to me why health people should risk unknown side effects from an emergency approved vaccine.
It’s amazing that people don’t believe an administration and news media steered by a political ideology that handles china’s role in covid with kid gloves while telling people they’re white supremacist domestic terrorists if they question the bullshit they’re being fed.
We had a summer spike last year. We will have a winter spike as well. This year was just about a month later than last year. This will dip back down just as it did in India and Europe in 4-5 weeks. Then in November, we will see another increase.
This right here. When you had the current admin overtly campaigning aginst the vaccine for 4 months through November then pivot as soon as they get in, with the media spending that whole time regurgitating those politically motivated statements you get a lot of confused and mistrusting people on both sides of the isle.
You had the current VP saying she wouldn't take a vaccine made under Trump's watch. You had media telling us it wasn't safe since it wasn't tested, Trump rushed it, to do a 180 once they are in power. What are people supposed to believe?
There are legitimate reasons for vaccine hesitancy outside politics. Starts with the misinformation and doublespeak from the media. I don't know how many times I have heard the rebuttal to it being a completely new type of vaccine that hasn't been tested as "we've studied mRNA for decades". Yeah, and we knew about fire for tens of thousands of years before we built an internal combustion engine. They didn't have a delivery protein patent until 2017 and a viable one until 2018. This is a new technology, it's understandable to be hesitant IF you are willing to take the risk of getting COVID after talking to your PCP.
There are other issues though, due to mistrust of the government and media. I think that's probably the #1 reason for the hesitancy, nobody knows what to believe because they can't trust anyone. This reason is completely bi-partisan, extends across multiple political, cultural, and racial groups. People's eyes have been opened in that they know they can't trust media, so how can they trust this vaccine when nobody is explaining the science behind it to them, nobody is being transparent about risk, and they are now being told again, that nothing will change if you get it?
Yes people in DC are known to be ugly woman and old men - no one wants to see their pissy looking faces...
Or communities within these states that are vax resistant. Doesn’t matter anymore since those with the vax are also carriers and transmitters of the new variant. The benefit for the vax is only protection of that individual.
One sentence. You got it all in!
Meanwhile, as you drivel, people who have decided not to vaccinate are dying.
But, hey, political stances, man.
No mention of the stance that right wing news outlets take on the vaccine. Or Trump’s refusal to support taking the vaccine, instead deciding to use the vaccination rates as political capital against Biden.
Hmmm…alright.
As is their choice. I’m just telling you why they don’t trust the people telling them what to do.
All the at risk people in my family got vaccinated(as an aside all except one are Trump voters but don't let that mess up your narrative...in fact my best friend is the biggest Trump supporter you will meet and he got vaccinated as soon as he could), all my elderly parents, step-parents, In laws, aunts, uncles......the most vulnerable got the vaccine....that slowed deaths...which was the whole plan from the beginning....we will not get to zero covid deaths or zero cases or zero hospitalizations barring some miracle cure that comes along. Mask won't do it. Now they just take whichever metric supports more fear.....if deaths are high we cite that number, when they go down it's numbers in hospitals....now we have just moved on to positive cases...oh but ignore the fact that the PCR test we relied on for over a year is actually junk.
And this administration has given out horrible messaging on this. Trump is gone, and you can sit there all day and say all you want that he handled it wrong, and I agree with that for a lot of it....but it's Bidens issue now, and his admin flip flops every day, heck he contradicts his own messaging within the same press conference. Now people are surprised that people are hesitant to get it? The whole pitch to get vaccinated was "go back to normal and now you don't have to wear mask"....well they just took that carrot away, without showing any data of SCIENCE! SCIENCE! to support it! They tried free beer and all kinds of other incentives, now our President has resorted to just calling people who don't get it dumb, all that does is make the hesitant dig in deeper.
And what does our media and politicians do? They blame it all on Trump voters, when the minorities are some of the most reluctant to get it. At this point, the people who want the vaccine have gotten it, and we will live through spikes, people just need to realize this and move on.
How many vaccinated people are dying bc of Covid? It’s not zero, but it’s close.
I keep hearing this same bullshit spouted by my friends on the left. What “right wing” news outlets are you referring to? I’m not a FoxNews apologist but nearly every day, they have something on their website promoting people to get the vaccine. I think this a made up narrative by the left to try and blame the right for the debacle. Granted, it’s clear that southern states are leading the charge in NOT getting the vaccine but I think schmak did a pretty good job of laying out why…this was politicized by politicians on the the left, namely our sitting VEEP, with their commentary on the “trump vaccine”. Hopefully people will open their eyes and realize that all of these politicians are assholes and don’t really have your well-being at the forefront of their logic or idealogy.
This is a good study if you want to look at it from Yale, the TL;DR is after 4 months were not real impact/effects, non-Covid related deaths were the same as placebo for one and two doses. It needs to be peer reviewed but it’s promising.
www.medrxiv.org
Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine
Background BNT162b2 is a lipid nanoparticle-formulated, nucleoside-modified RNA vaccine encoding a prefusion-stabilized, membrane-anchored SARS-CoV-2 full-length spike protein. BNT162b2 is highly efficacious against COVID-19 and is currently authorized for emergency use or conditional approval...
This is the damn truth, on both sides of the aisle. Both sides only care about power(I'm sure there are a few exceptions among them), and will use covid to advance their power.
Go talk to all those die-hard republicans in the NFL and NBA that are fully vaccinated.
I'm sure that's what your favored media outlets have told you, and yes there are disparities among republicans and democrats....but there are large disparities among races and age groups.
But don't look in to it, just believe what you are told.
Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity | KFF
KFF is collecting and analyzing data on COVID-19 vaccinations by race/ethnicity to gain increased insight who is receiving the vaccine and whether some groups are facing disparities in vaccination.
www.kff.org
This is very anecdotal, but I have a wide spectrum of friends/family...mostly Republican but several Dems also...but all the elderly and at risk have gotten vaccinated, and several of the younger ones have to. The elderly in that group are very staunch Trump supporters, very very Pro Trump....but they got the shot as soon as they could.
My father in law, hates Trump, was the last of that group to get the shot.
One of my friends who I would consider a perfect example of a moderate on political issues is the most anti-vax person in my social/family circle.
The few Dem friends I have I believe are vaccinated.
Point is, every one has their own reason for either getting it or not getting it, just boiling it down to right vs left is lazy....but it fits your agenda so you go with it.
My father in law, hates Trump, was the last of that group to get the shot.
One of my friends who I would consider a perfect example of a moderate on political issues is the most anti-vax person in my social/family circle.
The few Dem friends I have I believe are vaccinated.
Point is, every one has their own reason for either getting it or not getting it, just boiling it down to right vs left is lazy....but it fits your agenda so you go with it.
Yes that's their choice not yours or the government.
Exactly, which is why those of us vaccinated have nothing to worry about and should stop bitching about the other guys. They are not a threat to anybody but themselves. Vaxed people can carry and transmit also, so that argument is played out.
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