It’s hard to believe these numbers are continuing to be faked or exaggerated. What gives?
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So Texas recorded 333 covid deaths today
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Hospitals are incentivized for report all deaths as Covid deaths. It’s sad that people are dying from the disease and hopefully it gets cured soon, but it also isn’t right to destroy the livelihood of everyone to maybe save a few.
big corporations are doing well though cause we trust them to look out for the public good while we shop at their stores.
big corporations are doing well though cause we trust them to look out for the public good while we shop at their stores.
is there any proof of this coding deaths for bigger payouts?
people throw this out there all the time, but i’ve yet to see any data to back it up.
if you have a link, please provide it.
people throw this out there all the time, but i’ve yet to see any data to back it up.
if you have a link, please provide it.
It’s definitely been beaten into the ground. And yet the deaths keep going up. I’ve been a skeptic for most of this but damn, the numbers continue to climb.
Doesn’t matter. It’ll go 4 pages and include all the greatest hits
https://www.hrsa.gov/CovidUninsuredClaim
About the program
As part of the FFCRA, PPPHCEA, and CARES Act, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), will provide claims reimbursement to health care providers generally at Medicare rates for testing uninsured individuals for COVID-19 and treating uninsured individuals with a COVID-19 diagnosis.
https://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-insurance/info-2020/medicare-coronavirus-faq.html
Hospitals that treat Medicare beneficiaries for the coronavirus would get a 20 percent increase in their payments for those services, including inpatient stays.
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Yep. I read an article about "reported" deaths. It is not what they make it sound like.
It could be over a time frame of 10-14 days.... or longer.
I have no idea what to make of any of number increases...schools are opening up, certain states have face-to-face learning going on, SEC is pushing ahead with the college football season, the numbers are up in Texas and Georgia.....coincidence, I think not. Would not surprise me to see the numbers increase in other states within the SEC country. these states will be in the fight of their lives for the next few weeks to move forward and keep things somewhat open or to stick with plans to open up.
Conspiracy theorist....possibly but nothing surprises me anymore.
Conspiracy theorist....possibly but nothing surprises me anymore.
https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83
the 7-day average peaked in mid july at what looked like ~210 deaths per day and has been falling for the last 4 weeks.
EDIT: the 7-day trend (which had been falling) extends almost 2 weeks forward from the mid july peak. they appear to have revised their reporting methodology since i last looked at this dashbaord. The previous 2 weeks from current appears to be updated as the data comes in. at any rate, 333 deaths in a day would appear to be a 50% increase over the previous high day, which was nearly a month ago based on the data at the link above.
something is wonky with reporting 333 deaths in one day. the previous high day was 221.
new cases have been falling since mid july as well.
the 7-day average peaked in mid july at what looked like ~210 deaths per day and has been falling for the last 4 weeks.
EDIT: the 7-day trend (which had been falling) extends almost 2 weeks forward from the mid july peak. they appear to have revised their reporting methodology since i last looked at this dashbaord. The previous 2 weeks from current appears to be updated as the data comes in. at any rate, 333 deaths in a day would appear to be a 50% increase over the previous high day, which was nearly a month ago based on the data at the link above.
something is wonky with reporting 333 deaths in one day. the previous high day was 221.
new cases have been falling since mid july as well.
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I’m referencing this site which seems to indicate 317 on 8/6 and 282 on 8/7:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/
i think sites are putting data out as fast as they get it (probably updating automatically from some database) before the data is fully analyzed and vetted.
the point acres site also says that we had 31 new deaths 3 days ago, and that we had 675 new deaths on 7/27/20.
the point acres site also says that we had 31 new deaths 3 days ago, and that we had 675 new deaths on 7/27/20.
317 deaths out of 30 million people is nothing...unless you know one of those people.
Agreed. There’s some inconsistency in the daily numbers but the general curve has obviously increased since July. The 7-day average on 8/1 was 264, more than double from 2 weeks prior. It does seem to have tapered off slightly in the last week or so with the 7-day avg at 221.
I want to congratulate the board for keeping this thread apolitical. There is hope for us. Carry on.
I’ve never seen anyone reference that site. Stick to CDC or DSHS sites for the most accurate data. Worldometer seems to be pretty good with getting the most recent data close to accurate.
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where are you seeing that the curve has increased?
i am seeing on the txdshs site (case and fatality trends tab) that fatality data is incomplete for the last two weeks, but new fatality 7-day avg had been falling 7/16 to 7/29.
Really? It’s been posted on here a number of times. I learned of the site from AY. Not saying the sites you mentioned aren’t better but this one has certainly been out there awhile and my understanding is that it aggregates data directly from the CDC and the state sites.
If you click on a particular state, it will detail the graphs specific to that state rather than nationally.
gotcha. for reasons stated above, i'd personally be weary of using that site to determine a trend one way or another.
Here’s another state that just reported errors in Corona virus numbers.....
N.C. ‘reporting error’ fuels 200,000 COVID testing overcount
N.C. ‘reporting error’ fuels 200,000 COVID testing overcount
Reported errors in overall tests though the article states:
“She noted the error doesn’t affect data on key metrics such as the number of confirmed cases and deaths.”
Certainly fuels the continued distrust of our government officials though. They did themselves no favors.
even the RG Valley is now reporting a slowdown in cases reported, hospitalizations, and deaths, as is San Antonio
Sigeast02.......I think we will some growing death numbers from the Valley (So Tx) over the next few weeks. Cheeky educated me on a sudden spike in cases starting about 3 weeks ago. And certainly the socioeconomics of the area will cause additional strain of the systems down there.
It looks to be going down. Like another poster said, looks like we peaked at deaths in mid July. Been going down since. You have to look at day of death though, can't track this simply by "reported deaths" every day.
https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83
Still. Death Rate serving as the only metric for devising our health preservation strategy is the ONLY way to go.
Infection Rate is too fouled up with misleading info.
I'm a Houston guy so the only thing I kinda trust is the private website of the medical center. The only stats I semi trust is the hospitalizations who have tested positive because I feel that is the least fudgeable. It shows the spike in Houston has gone away as quick as it came... https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upd...id-19-hospitalizations-by-week-monday-sunday/
My problem with conspiracy theories is the require a large number of people to have a secret and keep quiet about it (which I don’t believe is possible with human nature).
Hospital CEOs and CFOs may have an evil desire to line their pockets with COVID money. That’s your premise, right?
But those people don’t code healthcare transactions. For this to be true on any meaningful scale, you would need thousands of physicians to be in on the scheme.
They along, with a tech are generally taking notes on patient care, which is then passed over to a coding specialist (these people make like $40k a year). Hospitals have full teams of coding specialists in charge of coding daily transactions.
So in all honesty, you would need 100s of people (per hospital) in on it to have a meaningful impact if your plan was to miscode.
And that’s honestly best case scenario, because in all honesty the majority of hospitals outsource their RCM process to third parties. Shit, tons of coding is outsourced to India.
I don't think it's necessarily money - it's power.
Suddenly we have the medicos DICTATING every aspect of our individual lives in this society, and they are becoming addicted to that level of total control over all of us.
I don't think it's a secret, lots of stories floating around. There is a doctor in Florida who was busted changing the cause of death to COVID on around 100 death certificates
You also have the CDC Director saying this could be happening.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths
So thousands of old women making $40k a year around the country working as coding specialists are addicted to the power of insurance fraud?
And the hospitals that outsource their revenue cycle management? What about them? They got a third party RCM company to help them with the scheme?
Link? Also seems like an outlier and they were caught. You would need thousands of dishonest physicians around the country to be doing the same to juice the numbers.
