Well when you use a loop of statements to prove your point, and nowhere in that loop is your point stated It’s not fake news, it’s someone inferring something that wasn’t stated. That is just dumbYou know, just because Trump says something a thousand times does not make it true. In fact, it is almost sure to be a lie.
Trump's flawed claim on Biden’s stance on China travel ban
In the final presidential debate, Democratic candidate Joe Biden repeated his claim that President Donald Trump has mishwww.politifact.com
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You know, just because Trump says something a thousand times does not make it true. In fact, it is almost sure to be a lie.
Trump's flawed claim on Biden’s stance on China travel ban
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Yeah, OK. So in a tweet where the travel ban is the topic Biden responds with stop your xenephobic Fear-mongering and it's fake. And notice how Politifact doesn't even show the tweets in question, just try to explain it away. Sad you will believe the "explain away" from the campain before you believe your own eyes.
I’m starting to think you’re a bit.Yeah, OK. So in a tweet where the travel ban is the topic Biden responds with stop your xenephobic Fear-mongering and it's fake. And notice how Politifact doesn't even show the tweets in question, just try to explain it away. Sad you will believe the "explain away" from the campain before you believe your own eyes.
Xenophobic isn’t the same as racist. But beyond semantics, he called him xenophobic because of the term “Chinese virus”
Nothing about that tweet is even close to saying he didn’t support the ban. And nobody would say in March that a travel ban from China was wrong.
Definition of xenophobe
: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin
A fancier word for racist, and when you look it up in a thesaurus it comes back with racialist as an option
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/xenophobic?s=t
And the attack was on the tweet, could be argued it was about the virus or ban, but the Trump tweet was about the ban and that was Biden's direct response. Only after there was backlash that the ban was working did they come out and try to explain it away. You seen to want to remember it as you want though facts aside.
: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin
A fancier word for racist, and when you look it up in a thesaurus it comes back with racialist as an option
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/xenophobic?s=t
And the attack was on the tweet, could be argued it was about the virus or ban, but the Trump tweet was about the ban and that was Biden's direct response. Only after there was backlash that the ban was working did they come out and try to explain it away. You seen to want to remember it as you want though facts aside.
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Yeah, nobody in their right mind would support travel bans in March...
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/watch-bernie-sanders-open-borders-coronavirus/#
Well - if you 1) read breitbart and 2) just read the headlines of breitbart, you are a complete idiot.
Listen to what he said and try again.
Listen to what he said and try again.
He criticized Trump for wanting to shut down borders directly due to the virus....what am I missing. People keep giving visual evidence proving your point wrong and you just keep having to remove your foot from your mouth to keep arguing that they shouldn't believe what they see. And you call them idiots.
First, it’s a direct quote and video that you can see and hear for yourself. Questioning the source really is just your misdirection, so let’s focus and avoid the childish name calling.
Second, try to keep up. You said no one, in March, would question travel bans. I simply responded to that with a link to someone who obviously did, unless you don’t think “No” means no. There’s also a Biden tweet from the same time period stating that travel bans wouldn’t be effective.
I thought we were talking about Biden. Careless use of nobody. Never speak in absolutes.
Any other random people you’d like to share their thoughts? Perhaps some people from Twitter?
Any other random people you’d like to share their thoughts? Perhaps some people from Twitter?
Interesting. I would have thought the "he" was the guy in the clip you were responding to. The same "he" you were referring to directly above his post when you said "Listen to what he said and try again."
As for random, I don't know, I thought maybe two of the leading Presidential candidates might be significant when you said "nobody would say in March that a travel ban from China was wrong". I'm sure I can find some Twitter folks if that's more your style.
Have a great day man. I don't have time for this.
As for random, I don't know, I thought maybe two of the leading Presidential candidates might be significant when you said "nobody would say in March that a travel ban from China was wrong". I'm sure I can find some Twitter folks if that's more your style.
Have a great day man. I don't have time for this.
So he said it the day after the travel ban was enacted and you think it was about something else? Either way, congratulations to him for being vague enough that you don't get pinned to taking an actual position, but the Democratic Party as a whole was very clear. Everyone that made comments about it at that time opposed it and they all were parroting the xenophobic talking points. It would be intellectually dishonest to believe Joe didn't oppose the travel ban even if he didn't say so explicitly.You know, just because Trump says something a thousand times does not make it true. In fact, it is almost sure to be a lie.
Trump's flawed claim on Biden’s stance on China travel ban
In the final presidential debate, Democratic candidate Joe Biden repeated his claim that President Donald Trump has mish
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So the game now is to be outraged at what an at the time private citizen with no power might have been thinking? Ok
I’m not really sure why his position on this matters to anyone. This started by me correcting a false premise. Should have known that because Trump said it, everyone on here believes it as the gospel. The sheep mentality for him is fascinating.
Amazing. In March, house Democrats passed the "No Ban Act" aimed at removing the President's power to issue travel bans. How far do you have to bend over backwards to believe that they supported the travel ban?
WTF? You sure went from "Joe was not against the travel ban" to "who cares what [private citizen] Joe thinks anyway" awful quick. You have no business calling anyone a sheep.
I said he never called Trump a racist bc of the travel ban. I misspoke saying nobody said that bc someone has said any and everything.
And my point wasn’t that he was pro or con. I don’t care. It was that just bc Trump says something doesn’t make it true.
As for Sheep, you guys just blindly support and believe every word. It’s bizarre. I don’t really like Biden. Plenty of things to criticism about him. I think it was total BS that he wouldn’t answer the question about stacking the court, a thing that even though I think it would counter the complete hypocrisy of the republicans, I don’t really support.
Also, as far as I can tell, all the "Chinese flu is racist" claims didn't start up until March. In fact, here's a February 6th CNN article still calling it the "Wuhan Coronavirus". I don't think Joe was a month early to this criticism, but you can choose for yourself. Seems much more likely to me that he was calling the travel ban xenophobic as others were doing.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-update-intl-hnk/index.html
I think the real point that matters is Joe claims he would have done a better job with Covid with nothing to back that up and several counterpoints suggesting he would have done worse.
Not that I think it matters. There's no stopping a global pandemic, and anyone that suggests otherwise is foolish (but I do think the first wave could have been much worse without the travel ban). It's just annoying watching them blame Trump for everything while offering nothing other than opposition.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-update-intl-hnk/index.html
I think the real point that matters is Joe claims he would have done a better job with Covid with nothing to back that up and several counterpoints suggesting he would have done worse.
Not that I think it matters. There's no stopping a global pandemic, and anyone that suggests otherwise is foolish (but I do think the first wave could have been much worse without the travel ban). It's just annoying watching them blame Trump for everything while offering nothing other than opposition.
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I have no idea if he would have done better or worse. I’m not sure anyone could have done much to stop it. Trump downplayed it but I can’t see how that really matters. Our infection rate by population is by far the worst in the world, but I think that’s more to do with our culture than the POTUS.
America is also the most tested nation, that has a hand in the infection rate too. We have a far better idea who has it and who doesn't. Never will be perfect though.
The last line you said is truth, it didn't matter who president was. This thing was going to run it's course. You call it downplaying the virus, it can also be looked at as not causing a panic. You think FDR should have come out after Pearl Harbor and gave a speech like a WWE wrestler? I am sure he was mad as hell but he "downplayed" the situation a bit to give the nation some calm. The same can be said here because even with the downplay we still set out and hoarded cleaning supplies and toilet paper. Imagine if there was a massive food run? Think that would have caused problems?
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Thanks guys. I don’t have the time or the patience to actually argue with somebody like Aggie98. I know there is no way he actually believes the shit he spews.
Same with W after 9-11. He was calm in front of a class of third graders instead of creating panic and Tom Brokaw has the nerve to say "some people are better at this job" pretty much insinuating Clinton would have done better if he would have been president at the time. It is always that way with democrats.
Question: wouldn’t a 90% efficacy translate to COVID ‘just going away’?
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So, you think that’s happening right now? Because it isn’t, and it won’t be out for a while, then it will only be available for prioritized groups, then much later to the general public. So, it will be going away, but it will take some time. Cheers!
I don’t remember any timeline other than ‘soon’. Actually, before the end of the year, and that’s still achievable via Operation Warp Speed. Think there are already 100 millions of doses pre-prepared. Also don’t remember any qualifications other than ‘total cases’.
If you had bothered to read the article posted by the OP, you would have found this:
When will the vaccine be available?
A limited number of people may get the vaccine this year.
Pfizer and BioNTech say they will have enough safety data by the third week of November to take their vaccine to regulators.
Until it has been approved it will not be possible for countries to begin their vaccination campaigns.
The two companies say they will be able to supply 50 million doses by the end of this year and around 1.3 billion by the end of 2021. Each person needs two doses.
The UK should get 10 million doses by the end of the year, with a further 30 million doses already ordered.
Who would get it?
Not everyone will get the vaccine straight away and countries are each deciding who should be prioritised.
Hospital staff and care home workers will be near the top of every list because of the vulnerable people they work with, as will the elderly who are most at risk of severe disease.
The UK is likely to prioritise older resident in care homes and the people that work there.
But it says a final decision has not been made, saying it will depend on how well the vaccine works in different age-groups and how the virus is spreading.
People under 50 and with no medical problems are likely to be last in the queue.
Are you sure you speak English? Because what you say doesn’t make sense. Did you read what I posted, because it directly contradicts your comment, yet here you are, saying that your comment is “in line.”
Perhaps you should read it more carefully? If you want I can go point by point to help you understand.
So ... let me enumerate
1) Trump’s claim was that ‘soon it will just go away’. (Left freaks.)
2);Operation warp speed‘s goal is to distribute vaccines as soon as possible (this being the first)
3) Pfizer has been authorized to manufacture some 50 million doses in parallel with testing ( this matches)
4) FDA approval under EUA is likely end of this month (;also in line with your comments)
5) distribution to at risk groups should be very much in progress by end of year ( matches)
6) not mentioned but referred to in my 100 million doses is the doses of other vendors also in testing but likely to come ‘soon’ ( granted that I did not distinguish)
comment about ’total cases’ is a reference to your sided total fixation on cases as opposed to mortality rate
lastly, I’ll apologize to Mark for a tongue in cheek comment resulting in a stupid assed political response by you. Give it a freaking rest!!
trav, your condescension now defines you, and it doesn't look good.
man, i like you, but you're gonna need to back off and pretend you're not better than others.
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