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Desmar Walker
There is a link to Desmar Walker talking to ABC news yesterday. She says most of the hospital is full of unvaccinated patients and MISINFORMATION is one of the biggest frustrations of her job.
I heard her say unvaccinated people are turning gay at an alarming rate.
Hearing comprehension is the first sign of turning gay........
If you won’t get vaccinated please wear condoms.
What happened to you man?
i love all of you pompous asshats. I would advocate a tattoo system so when this is all over we can identify those who felt the need to get in other people’s lives. You got your shot, you’re squared away, why is that not the end of it?
I got a card. Would love to be in the meeting where they decided on the size of stupid thing.
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Can’t help themselves not enough to control themselves they got to be in everyone’s life.
I’m not a doctor but 676 patients out of 7,000,000 people doesn’t sound too bad. IMHO
I generally agree with your sentiment. It's a personal decision, and I would never preach to anyone that they should get the shot if they don't want it.
On the other hand, it's annoying as shit--and getting worse--to hear politicians say we have to give up liberties, mask our children even if we think it's bad for them, and can't resume a normal life because it presents too much risk to the unvaccinated.
The quid pro quo here should be it's an individual choice to get the shot or not, but no one is going to change their behavior to protect those who decline.
Here’s the Cleveland Clinic press release. Notice it recommended that even those who’ve contracted COVID 19 still get vaccinated. Note also they indicated the potential weaknesses in the study, such as the young population in the study. So, I suppose the real conclusion from the study is that you should get the vaccine. Please stop disseminating false and misleading information on this topic.
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Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research
“Cleveland Clinic recommends those who are eligible receive the COVID-19 vaccine.We recently shared research that provides insight into how the immune system protects the body after a confirmed COVID-19 infection. The study followed Cleveland Clinic caregivers over five months as the vaccination process was beginning. The data showed that the vaccine was extremely effective in preventing COVID-19 infection. In addition, we found that none of the previously infected employees who remained unvaccinated were re-infected over the duration of the study. This information could help guide vaccination efforts should there be a shortage of vaccine supply and in countries where vaccine supply is limited.
This is still a new virus, and more research is needed. It is important to keep in mind that this study was conducted in a population that was younger and healthier than the general population. In addition, we do not know how long the immune system will protect itself against re-infection after COVID-19. It is safe to receive the COVID-19 vaccine even if you have previously tested positive, and we recommend all those who are eligible receive it.”
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Thanks. Still not planning to get it but the ones in my family who are at risk have been vaccinated. Hopefully as they continue to get this virus it will be minimal. Worried about my FIL as he is the only one in my family that is truly at risk with heart conditions. Their study still has the data that not one previously infected patient contracted covid in the study and recommends everyone get the shot while saying there is still much we don’t know. I was not saying anything that in that study that wasn’t stated in your article.
the unvaccinated aren't the ones asking for mask and people to give up liberties....politicians may be saying that....but most unvaccinated want to just go back to normal. Vaccinated people are the ones screaming for mask, lockdowns, etc....which seems backwards doesn't it?
Ok, great. It sounded to me like you were saying the Cleveland Clinic was recommending that anyone who had contracted COVID was better protected than those who were vaccinated and that they were further recommending that those who had recovered needn’t be vaccinated. In fact, they were saying just the opposite.
Did you also miss where none of their study who were previously infected and unvaccinated got reinfected?
No, but did you note their qualification on the group in the study being both younger and healthier than the general population? The critical point was that the Cleveland Clinic concluded that even those who had an undetermined level of post infection immunity should still get vaccinated. BDB99 has, in at least two threads on the vaccine claimed CC’s report claimed that vaccinations weren’t necessary in recovered patients. A statement that is both misleading and patently false.
I have a great idea. Let’s all change each other’s minds with another thread on AY.
We should do ring matches between the vaxxed and unvaxxed. Winner determines the outcome of whomever side you pick (vaxxed would have to forego the booster and not get vaxxed for 2 years if they lose?). Unvaxxed simply get vaxxed.
maybe I spoke in generalities and I shouldn't. I was talking about me and any other person under 50 in good shape. They should make their own decisions based on the data out there. The way I see it if I am perfectly healthy and have been exposed to this thing over and over since the beginning I don't see the need to take the vaccine. My daughter who is 8 does not need the vaccine. My wife is in better shape than I am and is in Healthcare decided she doesn't want to take it ( like me ) unless she if forced to so she can make a living. Looks like both of us will be forced to and it is bullshit. I've been in the healthcare industry in one way or another for 17 years and have a ton of friends and colleagues who feel the same way I do. I am tired of the grandstanding and the lies from our local politicians and CDC about something we are all seeing in our own eyes. People who are vaccinated are getting this thing at an alarming rate. No doubt people who aren't vaccinated are getting sick and going to the hospital. We locked the country down for a year so when the variant came out people were fat, unhealthy and their immune systems weren't ready for a virus they had no contact with. Even if they were vaccinated.
I've never said people shouldn't get the vaccine....if you would listen I said a big segment of the population doesn't need it. It is a crutch and many people don't need that crutch. Why don't we talk about the people that have had it and had no symptoms? There are no studies or scientific evidence saying there is any reason for them to be getting an experimental dose of a vaccine and anyone who brings that up is banned from YouTube or any other social media platform. All I am saying is I see people all around me who have had the vaccine now getting the virus. Not one person I have been around nor heard about that had the virus and either had no symptoms or suffered through it has had it twice. I do know of people who had it pre vaccine, got the vaccine and then got covid again only to have a rough time with it. I think our own MAC is one
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...11-locally-transmitted-unlinked-death-2105066
Singapore from yesterday. Sorry for the long read, for some reason it wouldnt let me screen shot the bit i was looking at as a summary.
Thing about masks - Before covid, it was quite common for a person not feeling well to wear a mask to work or out in general here in sg. So, adapting to wearing masks as a fact of life has been easy for most here. I dont even notice I have one on most of the time now. Kinda dangerous considering how forgetful i can be.
Like others have said having underlying conditions, being over 60 and not being vaccinated are risk factors.
The stat near the bottom of that article says unvaxxed folks are at nearly 10x greater risk at becoming severely ill or dying. Im ready for the booster if its required for Delta or Lamda or whatever is next.
Singapore from yesterday. Sorry for the long read, for some reason it wouldnt let me screen shot the bit i was looking at as a summary.
Thing about masks - Before covid, it was quite common for a person not feeling well to wear a mask to work or out in general here in sg. So, adapting to wearing masks as a fact of life has been easy for most here. I dont even notice I have one on most of the time now. Kinda dangerous considering how forgetful i can be.
Like others have said having underlying conditions, being over 60 and not being vaccinated are risk factors.
The stat near the bottom of that article says unvaxxed folks are at nearly 10x greater risk at becoming severely ill or dying. Im ready for the booster if its required for Delta or Lamda or whatever is next.
55% of the patients that have Covid were fully vaccinated? This is not consistent with the numbers I'm hearing
People who are vaccinated are getting this thing at an alarming rate.
Got some data to back this up?
There is zero point discussing this with anyone anymore. With a year and a half of Covid data and almost a year of vaccine data (including the trials), everyone has had everything they need to make their own decision. No one's mind is being changed and if one is relying on local news or fringe websites for data that is their problem. it's going to quickly run through the remaining population that is now fully out and about, this is the last wave we'll pay attention to, but it'll be in circulation forever and we'll all get it (edit: "it" will be some variant, it's like influenza) someday.
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We need to push through this Delta wave and get over it. If we would have taken this stance last summer we wouldn’t be having this conversation…. again
Agree with this. At this point you aren’t going to sway anyone. But if it’s your choice, also make it your choice to treat it on your own since you’re a science expert. Stop clogging up the hospitals. Surgeries are shut down again and no income here for who knows how long. Your choice is now affecting our income and that’s not my choice.
This is such a dumb take.
What about people who smoke?
People who drink?
People who overeat?
People who drink and drive?
They all made choices for themselves too, should they have to treat themselves?
Until you, your wife (assuming you're not gay), your son, daughter, other loved one needs a Dr., nurse, and the proper equipment to deal with Covid are not available.
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In what world does any disease or sickness not change your perspective when it's your family?
By this reasoning, if your family got one of numerous side effects, would you change your opinion?
By this reasoning, if your family got one of numerous side effects, would you change your opinion?
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