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mine was a general comment post not specific to you.
This seems like a pretty low bar for a therapy. Most treatments require a level of efficacy before they’re approved, not simply an absence of side affects.
Of course, I'm just saying ivermectin still seems to be the best of the alternative therapies. Of course the fact that there are alternative therapies nullifies the justification for EUA, but that's another discussion.
This guy seem to think it helps
www.thedesertreview.com
Dr. George Fareed and Dr. Brian Tyson share early treatment protocol
Dr. George Fareed, Imperial Valley frontline doctor fighting against the COVID-19 pandemic locally, has been fielding phone calls from across the nation helping those afflicted but unable to get early
I know several folks who have used ivermectin... worked in every single one. I have not, nor have I gotten the vaccine. I just don’t understand the “incentive” program/excessive push to get the vaccine things, and that deters me from it and I’m not an anti vaxxer... I get the flu shot every year; but this just seems different to me for some odd reason.
Well they are either vaccinating us to try to stop people from spreading it, to help keep vulnerable people out of the hospital or most likely, it’s a brain controlling agent that once we all get, Gates flips a switch and controls all of us.
With that in mind, Melinda is a total bitch and a liar Bill. I'm ready to serve you my overlord.
With that in mind, Melinda is a total bitch and a liar Bill. I'm ready to serve you my overlord.
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Yes. Australia and many other countries were giving HCQ to Covid-19 positive patients. Tom Hanks and his wife were both given HCQ while they had covid-19 in Australia. They both praised HCQ for getting them over Covid until Trump promoted the possibility that it could help with covid. Then they said HCQ gave them a headache.
My SNL had the covid virus and had mild symptoms, but now he has myocarditis. The doctor told him a lot of healthy young people that caught the virus and had little to no symptoms now have myocarditis.
Well they are either vaccinating us to try to stop people from spreading it, to help keep vulnerable people out of the hospital or most likely, it’s a brain controlling agent that once we all get, Gates flips a switch and controls all of us.
The vaccine works but like all vaccines comes with risks. Assuming they are being completely honest about what they know, there is no way they know all those risks in this short amount of time. more potential side effects are coming out every week. The unknown risks don’t seem worth it to me, considering the high likelihood I have long term, if not permanent immunity from having had the virus
4th option
Wife has multiple heart and vascular issues she developed after having covid almost exactly a year ago. Her doctors have no doubt they came from having covid as he has had tons of new patients with similar issues. She was never bad enough to go to hospital but was very close. She had a pretty severe case that lasted almost 3 weeks. Her PCP, rheumatologist, and cardiologist have all told her that there is a high likelihood that the vaccine could cause another significant flare making her cardiac symptoms worse. 2 of the 3 said don’t get vaccine and 3rd one is on the fence.
Third option.
The vaccine works but like all vaccines comes with risks. Assuming they are being completely honest about what they know, there is no way they know all those risks in this short amount of time. more potential side effects are coming out every week. The unknown risks don’t seem worth it to me, considering the high likelihood I have long term, if not permanent immunity from having had the virus
4th option
Wife has multiple heart and vascular issues she developed after having covid almost exactly a year ago. Her doctors have no doubt they came from having covid as he has had tons of new patients with similar issues. She was never bad enough to go to hospital but was very close. She had a pretty severe case that lasted almost 3 weeks. Her PCP, rheumatologist, and cardiologist have all told her that there is a high likelihood that the vaccine could cause another significant flare making her cardiac symptoms worse. 2 of the 3 said don’t get vaccine and 3rd one is on the fence.
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We are seeing what is called multisystem inflammatory disorder (MIS-C) pop up in a number of pediatric patients a couple weeks after infection.
I don’t have have exact numbers (don’t have the studies in front of me) but in our Pediatric ICU we have had 1-2 kiddos every week to 1.5 weeks since may.
Thanks. Sorry. Can you approximate their ages? We talking young kids or high schoolers or a mix?
Your guess is just as good as mine whether it is percentage or numbers, but if its 3 or more, it would be a concern because I am sure he is not the only doctor seeing it.
Is everyone that doesn’t believe as you do a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists? You guys are so predictable.
Oh, add another “JFC” to your post. It makes you seem like the smart guy in the thread.
Not necessarily. Pediatricians see kids sometimes until they’re 18. I don’t know about the ICUs.
We get national stories about 12 kids getting cardiomyopathy out of 10,000 with the vaccine. I’m skeptical but open to whatever number I hear. In an era where shocking but rare anecdotes fill the 24 hour news cycle and 3% number would get coverage. A lot of it.
Now that news about HCQ and Ivermectin are finally allowed to be presented. Why would anyone consider trusting an experimental jab with potential long term risks.
The problem was with liberals mandating what other people could use, like HCQ. It’s a personal decision, not yours to make for me Or others.
why do you think you can tell other what to use? Tyrannical.
why do you think you can tell other what to use? Tyrannical.
On further scientific study of this really good data, 100% of the people who died weren’t vaccinated.
No one was telling you that you couldn’t take it. They were just telling you it was more likely to do nothing than help which is what this study seems to agree with.
Every time I go to my doctor we have a conversation about medications that work/are working and figure out how best to move forward based upon efficacy, side effects, etc. If your doctor doesn’t do the same thing then the problem lies with you for not finding a new doctor not those dirty liberals dictating what the entirety of the medical community can do to treat their patients.
Every time I go to my doctor we have a conversation about medications that work/are working and figure out how best to move forward based upon efficacy, side effects, etc. If your doctor doesn’t do the same thing then the problem lies with you for not finding a new doctor not those dirty liberals dictating what the entirety of the medical community can do to treat their patients.
So it's not FDA approved or even emergency so, therefore, should not be used based on previous logic. Amirite? Hey, I am all in on horse dewormer, just show me where to sign.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are made of an mRNA strand that codes for part of the virus spike protein. That strand is protected by a shell of lipids that make up the outer membrane of every cell in your body. The rest of the vaccine is salt and some sucrose.
All of this comes directly from their EUAs.
The J&J vaccine is a DNA strand coding for the same protected by a replication-deficient viral protein shell (ad26). It is a more traditional vaccine.
Just so you know what you are arguing about.
All of this comes directly from their EUAs.
The J&J vaccine is a DNA strand coding for the same protected by a replication-deficient viral protein shell (ad26). It is a more traditional vaccine.
Just so you know what you are arguing about.
So ... you just give up????
Well where’s the shovel? Gotta start digging.
This was before there was any vaccine or therapeutics! I doubt giving up was on anyone’s mind at the time.
The real reason ?? If there was ANY kind of treatment approved then there wasn’t the need for the vaccine! Federal money was at stake! THAT’S the real reason!
Which study did that come from? Large sample base or small? It apparently matters.
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