Clippers and Lakers vote to sit out rest of season.
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Lol....SO, you think law enforcement should NOT have guns? You sir are a pathetic, pitiful idiot!
Have you watched the entire footage of the George Floyd incident? Chauvin definitely should not have been on him that long, but there is way more to it then the original narrative. I originally couldn't understand why they didn't already have him in the back of the cop car instead of on the ground. Well they tried putting him in a car and he flipped out. They are making a big mistake charging those cops with murder, because they will likely be acquitted and riots will start again. Should have gone with a lesser charge.
But on the Blake shooting, do you think there are a bunch of non-lethal weapons out there police just aren't using? If a taser doesn't take a guy down, there aren't a lot of options that would be effective. Do you think they lied about shooting him with a taser? That's seems very unlikely. Tasers don't always take people down, but it's the best non-lethal option. So far with all the evidence I have seen the cops were justified, the only part I question is shooting 7 times.....but once the shooting starts.....
As with the Micheal Brown case, they are picking the wrong hill to die on. People need to learn to wait for facts.
Also, the protest always "demand justice".....what does that mean? It means different things to everyone. Justice should be waiting for an investigation.....but just saying "we demand justice" leaves it open ended to never be satisfied.
BTW, the most unjustifiable police shooting I have ever seen was this one below. You want to really protest police shootings, cite this case.
Floyd died of a drug overdose so those officers are liking getting off or convicted of lesser charges.
I don’t watch the sport, so no effect there. But it does bother me that these idiots get this pulpit and platform to spread more divisiveness over BS. For whatever segment of the population listening to them, it legitimizes a bogus claim of injustice and victimization of a criminal.
This reminds of the comedian making fun of the British Bobbies- “Stop! Stop! . . . or I’ll say ‘stop’ again!”
The details of George Floyd's autopsy showed he had a lethal level of fentanyl in his system, and that was the reason he was saying he could not breathe while sitting in back of the police car. He also was found to have had cardiovascular disease with a 75% blockage in one of his arteries.
Blake was non-compliant, tazed multiple times without affect and reaching for something in his car. He admitted to having the knife. Did I say he was non-compliant and already tazed multiple times and armed with a knife?
Blake was non-compliant, tazed multiple times without affect and reaching for something in his car. He admitted to having the knife. Did I say he was non-compliant and already tazed multiple times and armed with a knife?
Even Mark Cuban supports the walk out! Well, I don’t support Mark Cuban and I will never again support the NBA.
Good post. Agree that cops should have a policy of using tasers first and bullets as the backup.
What’s missing from the discussion is a campaign to teach citizens they must not resist arrest. They will get their day in court but they are asking for bad outcomes when cops feel threatened and on edge. Not a single shooting I am aware of was of a compliant suspect. Do the activists really care about the safety of these black suspects or are they using them as pawns for a political agenda. Hard to tell.
Guess we'll see. If Floyd died of an OD, then that just happened to coincide with Chauvin pinning his neck to the pavement for 9 minutes. Either way, Chauvin acted excessively.
I read a brief part of the ESPN story and the described the immediate event before the shooting as follows: "Blake was shot as he attempted to enter the driver's side door of his vehicle with three of his children inside." Oh, ok, so that's why no one trusts the media.
What does this walkout do for the black communities that make up a large part of the NBA fanbase? What do they get out of this? They still have to show up for their jobs and now they don’t get to watch basketball. What are these players accomplishing?
Not sure we have all the facts yet on Blake case. I heard the police tried taser, but it didn't work. Does that mean they missed, it hit him but didn't stop him, what? I took it as some sort of malfunction or misfire, but I don't know.
If Blake had complied, he doesn't get shot. And based on his record, it seems likely police were responding to a situation Blake caused himself.
But also, maybe if police were better with their non lethal weapons, he doesn't get shot.
Each officer carries a taser, if one malfunctions another one would have used his.....
This is what the Wisconsin DOJ said
"Law enforcement deployed a taser to attempt to stop Mr. Blake, however the taser was not successful in stopping Mr. Blake "
So we know the taser fired, saying it was not successful in stopping him sure sounds like it hit and the guy didn't stop. I believe if they missed it would state that. Or if it didn't work properly they would have said that. It is completely believable that the taser did not take him down, it happens often. There really aren't any other more effective methods except a gun. Mace/pepper spray is definitely less effective.
Data I can find says they incapacitate the suspect about 86% of the time. To make an assumption that the officers must not have known how to use a taser is pretty dang silly.
why not simply comply with police instructions in both cases? if it was a cheap offense and cops are dicks, record it and push police reform and both would be alive. I have no doubt leftists would be happy to burn, loot, and riot for a few coarse words from police just as much as when people resist arrest, attacking cops (michael brown and the good ol' hands up don't shoot scam) and then getting it
it isn't that cops have guns, it is that people resist arrest and go full nutso. also, how many times has this dude in wisconsin been charged for domestic and with weapons? maybe toe the line of the law a bit as well.
I am a big NBA fan, but they are about to lose me, sports are supposed to be a be a escape from reality, and they are ruining that. I am afraid this same thing is going to happen in pro and college football, if it does, marketing dollars are going to start drying up.
Maybe if he didn't threaten a woman, stole her keys, and refused to leave her premises then the cops wouldn't have been needed in the first place.
Maybe if Blake committed less felonies and instead focused on providing a better life for his kids then this situation would never have happened.
Maybe if George Floyd didn't engorge a copious amount of fentanyl, he may have been more aware to be more compliant to the cops. Maybe he would still be here, but probably not because both autopsy reports were found that he had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system, grossly enlarged lungs, and had pre-existing heart conditions all of which were the primary factor of his death.
Maybe if Floyd was committing less crimes or not shoving drugs into his body he would still be here today. Maybe in Houston with his daughter.
Look there are hills to die on, but neither of these men are the ones to do so. Philando Castile is a much better case for excessive police force. And unfortunately, there are plenty of other cases too.
Agree that assuming the police don't know how to properly tase someone is silly.
I think you are extrapolating a helluva lot that the police effectively used the taser on Blake but it was ineffective. That's not what the statement says. You're assuming it was an effective tasing.
Facts around the taser use in this case are unclear to me.
Been a fan since Dirk and Nash. I support the protest to some extent, but also want to be entertained and will again today because they are starting up again.
I'm already not watching the NBA this season so whatever. They can keep on destroying their viewership market. They are doing us a favor so we don't have to see them.
gooch, I hear so many, including lebron, suggest that the cops should have tackled the dude..
that is a horrible idea, could easily have ended with a dead cop and if so, likely also a dead perp.
I feel bad for the dude if in fact he is partially paralyzed, but when he went to get in the car with 3 kids in it, the police had to eliminate the possibility of him driving away and potentially harming the kids or other innocent citizens.
that is a horrible idea, could easily have ended with a dead cop and if so, likely also a dead perp.
I feel bad for the dude if in fact he is partially paralyzed, but when he went to get in the car with 3 kids in it, the police had to eliminate the possibility of him driving away and potentially harming the kids or other innocent citizens.
My dad at one point was an MP in the Navy during the Korean conflict. He said a baton to the shin pretty well calmed anyone down.
While I agree that Floyd had a lot of issues going on at the moment that he could have controlled, pinning one's knee on a non-combative person's neck for ANY amount of time is not an acceptable way to deal with the situation. Just pin him against the vehicle until medical/mental help can get there.
