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Nikki Haley

Intellectually dishonest unless you would have posted this last week. Callin balls and strikes.
That's stupid logic. Nobody posted anything about the Dem convention. Why would I start a thread if I didn't even watch it. You seem a bit touchy.
 
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Ironic Republican hard-on = Nikki Haley getting a nice donation from Big Oil, designating tribal land for pipeline and drilling use, then saying, "This is Indian territory, bitches."
 
not a fan of her - more Lindsay Graham-like republican than true conservative. Hard pass

also highly doubt Haley and other republicans are the only ones getting money from big oil. they may get more but I would guess all of those crooked bastards in DC are getting money. except for unions, doubt anything over 2% goes to GOP
 
not a fan of her - more Lindsay Graham-like republican than true conservative. Hard pass

also highly doubt Haley and other republicans are the only ones getting money from big oil. they may get more but I would guess all of those crooked bastards in DC are getting money. except for unions, doubt anything over 2% goes to GOP
I'm interested in anyone this side of Hugo Chavez these days...scary times.
 
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not a fan of her - more Lindsay Graham-like republican than true conservative. Hard pass

also highly doubt Haley and other republicans are the only ones getting money from big oil. they may get more but I would guess all of those crooked bastards in DC are getting money. except for unions, doubt anything over 2% goes to GOP
Wow, the "crooked bastards" on both sides comment is actually something we agree on.

I did a little research, and 42 of the top 50 Representatives who get oil money are Republican, and 18 of the top 20 Senators. House Republicans average about 3.5x as much as Dems, and Senate Republicans about 10x as much as Dems. Overall, the swamp drainer leads the way with about 1.35 million reasons to to kiss their asses...which exemplifies the problem. After sheer incompetence, complete corruptibility is Trump's greatest flaw (see Longneck's Russian money comment above). We all know we're gonna get f***ed at least a little by whomever is in charge, but I'd rather not have the biggest crook in Washington warning me about the swamp creatures as he takes the country from behind.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=E01
 
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not a fan of her - more Lindsay Graham-like republican than true conservative. Hard pass

also highly doubt Haley and other republicans are the only ones getting money from big oil. they may get more but I would guess all of those crooked bastards in DC are getting money. except for unions, doubt anything over 2% goes to GOP
The fact the Nikki Haley is so unlike Trump (who I recognize is not a true conservative) and Rand Paul (who is) may be why she appeals to me. I like her experience and the fact that she’s more of a pragmatist than an ideologue. I hope the R’s can broaden their base and move away from the lunacy.
 
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Would love to see her, Ivanka, and/or Candace in some sort of combination for the 2024 ticket.....would be unstoppable, imo
 
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Wasn’t able to watch last night. Good to hear the speeches were solid. Oh and I like oil money going to politicians. Oil is one of the greatest discoveries in human history. Can’t say the same about the google and Facebook money
 
I did a little research..
42 of the top 50 Representatives
oil money
Republican
18 of the top 20 Senators.
After sheer incompetence, complete corruptibility is Trump's greatest flaw

..by whomever is in charge
you appear to be a real thinking man's thinker.

i'm gonna go ahead and credit you for correctly navigating the "who/whom" quandary
 
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Joe wasn’t my first choice specifically because of taking those types of donations. It’s part of the problem. Trump represents that very problem on steroids though. I’d vote for the plastic bag from American Beauty if it was running against Trump.
Well then ... I’ll count you as non-convincable then. You’re wrong but I get it, you’re looking to learn you some Mandarin in the near future
 
The fact the Nikki Haley is so unlike Trump (who I recognize is not a true conservative) and Rand Paul (who is) may be why she appeals to me. I like her experience and the fact that she’s more of a pragmatist than an ideologue. I hope the R’s can broaden their base and move away from the lunacy.


so you would want a replay of Reagan going to Handsy Bush senior? no thanks! Bush sr and jr were Kennedy democrats with a R in front of their name. They were better than Gore, Clinton and the other jokes the DNC put up but not of the same ilk of Ronny. can you find someone not trump but not Kennedy?
 
Wow, the "crooked bastards" on both sides comment is actually something we agree on.

I did a little research, and 42 of the top 50 Representatives who get oil money are Republican, and 18 of the top 20 Senators. House Republicans average about 3.5x as much as Dems, and Senate Republicans about 10x as much as Dems. Overall, the swamp drainer leads the way with about 1.35 million reasons to to kiss their asses...which exemplifies the problem. After sheer incompetence, complete corruptibility is Trump's greatest flaw (see Longneck's Russian money comment above). We all know we're gonna get f***ed at least a little by whomever is in charge, but I'd rather not have the biggest crook in Washington warning me about the swamp creatures as he takes the country from behind.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=E01

can you use your super Google-sleuthing talents to dig up the breakdown of Big Tech and Wall Street donations. private corporations can throw their money around - it is when public sector unions do that is a huge problem.
 
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