How do you respond?

[maddbomber]

My son is 10. He loves baseball. Astros are his favorite team and our escape from everything going on is watching the Astros. 3 uncles served in the Army. Two are Ags, one isn’t. One shed blood for the flag in Iraq but is OK. The other two were in action but made it through. Deployments were tough for everyone and had to band together for emotional support for cousins whose dads were gone.

We Watched opening day and he saw three of his favorite players kneel during the anthem and then tonight the Astros walked off the field.


tonight: “Dad, it really hurts me to see anyone kneel during the anthem, especially my favorite players. Why can’t they just play for the love of the game ? I don’t know what to think anymore because they are my favorite players but if I root for them am I disrespecting the sacrifices uncle X, x, and x made?”

How the heck do you respond to a 10 year old with that question? All this really just sucks all the way around.

 

[BADASH]

That they are doing what they think is right, even if you dont agree with it. They have a right to do that as Americans and that they are not disrespecting those that served even if some people interpret it that way

 

[offshore ag]

That’s a very articulate 10yo.

Just tell them these are coddled millionaires who play a game for absurd amounts of money and therefore basically live in fantasy land with only a minimal grasp of the reality that most Americans face.

 

[Murf03]

It’s ok to disagree with someone. That’s what makes this country great. Just don’t forget where you came from.

 

[wick]

I have been as big an Astro fan as anyone who knows me since 64. They have a right to show their feelings and I have a right to never support them in a game again. . This feigned protest needs to stop. This socialist driven drivel will be the end of all major league sports. Maybe that isn’t a bad thing, when you look at it objectively.

 

[sigeast02]

At least it’s a peaceful protest unlike what’s going on in most of the major cities across the US.

 

[2th_doc]

I have been as big an Astro fan as anyone who knows me since 64. They have a right to show their feelings and I have a right to never support them in a game again. . This feigned protest needs to stop. This socialist driven drivel will be the end of all major league sports. Maybe that isn’t a bad thing, when you look at it objectively.

futbol.
there will always be futbol.

 

[Tailgate Ag]

Simply tell him his favorite players are cheaters anyway so hard lesson learned for making sports stars your idols.

 

[maddbomber]

Offshore Ag, the kid is well beyond his years thinking which is what makes it tough. Not some stuff I just made up. To make it more confusing for him, his best friend is Hispanic, and his two good friends on his baseball team are black. We don’t see race just great kids and people.

 

[Higher Authority]

lol

 

[J.]

That they are doing what they think is right, even if you dont agree with it. They have a right to do that as Americans and that they are not disrespecting those that served even if some people interpret it that way

bullshit. They are disrespecting our flag and those that served.

 

[maddbomber]

HA, what part of my post is funny?

 

[Hot Sauce Hoy]

lol

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

 

[maddbomber]

Typical agitative response from usual suspects. Congrats Hoy, you and higher authority are entertainers. Keep up the good work.

 

[Higher Authority]

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

"Son, we come from a long line of men who make up faggy stories about our kids as a means of virtue signaling and jingoistic banner waving in an echo chamber where our people reside comfortably. Drink your coffee...today, you are one step closer to being a man with token brown friends you can use as shields."

 

[MSCAg1997]

Typical agitative response from usual suspects. Congrats Hoy, you and higher authority are entertainers. Keep up the good work.

to be fair, your quote doesn’t sound like any 10 year old I’ve ever met or heard (I.e. you likely made up all or part of it.).

 

[MSCAg1997]

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

That’s funny, my 6 yr old son just started lecturing me....

“ four score and seven years ago....”

 

[jr95]

"Son, we come from a long line of men who make up faggy stories about our kids as a means of virtue signaling and jingoistic banner waving in an echo chamber where our people reside comfortably. Drink your coffee...today, you are one step closer to being a man with token brown friends you can use as shields."

To be fair to madbomber 10 year olds can surprise you with their rhetoric more than one might suppose. As my mother was expressing her disgust towards Nickelodeon upon the news that indeed Sponge Bob was homosexual, my 10 year old son leaned over as inconspicuously as he could muster, while simultaneously holding in his swelling laughter he whispered “Dad, is nana‘s gaydar on the fritz or what? I mean a blind Ethiopian unich could see there was not much square about those pants if you catch my drift. I mean Dad, Bob wasn’t questioning anything. That fool was sicking on ways that squid could fill All those those holes early in the game. That twink gets his second big picture Hollywood deal and uses the opening scene to show us Antonio Banderas prancing around in a pirates outfit? Jeeeez Louise, you don’t exactly need a Dan Brown book to point out the not so hidden symbolism with that whole plot do we, dad? Well, maybe Nana does, jeez”

it was not so much the words he used or even his above grade level understanding of human sexuality that took me aback as much as it was the feigned wink and nod of approval he gave his grandmother as he drew her attention to his muttering. my surprise moved towards disbelief as he gave me a swat on my leg with his knee under The dinner table and with ventriloquism that would get Jim Henson rock hard said “Boomer alert. Boomer alert”

all that to say, madbomber very well might have had the climatic scene of one of those mid season moralizing downer episodes of Growing Pains break out as he watched the game with his kiddo.

 

[edodubbs]

"Son, we come from a long line of men who make up faggy stories about our kids as a means of virtue signaling and jingoistic banner waving in an echo chamber where our people reside comfortably. Drink your coffee...today, you are one step closer to being a man with token brown friends you can use as shields."

My 8 year old nephew as i read him this thread:

"Uncle, screw all these pussies that think we're racists. They don't know shit. We're all the same. And who says faggy? Coffee? Grab me a beer. But i do like this guys taste in music."

I was taken aback with the language. But proud he recognizes good tunes. So lose/win. Also, startling how ahead of their times the kids are these days.

 

[pickitup]

This thread. Guys, tap the breaks a little.

 

[Rooster77]

perfect opportunity to discuss law and order - break the law pay the consequences and that his star athletes are promoting anarchy.

 

[AggieTom2000]

"Son, we come from a long line of men who make up faggy stories about our kids as a means of virtue signaling and jingoistic banner waving in an echo chamber where our people reside comfortably. Drink your coffee...today, you are one step closer to being a man with token brown friends you can use as shields."

While funny, I don’t think it is entirely impossible that a 10yo could ask this stuff. My kids surprise me with some of the connections they make.

Also, the concept of racial tension is foreign to young kids. To me, that means it is probably taught at home, forged through personal experience, or both.

 

[BADASH]

bullshit. They are disrespecting our flag and those that served.

Ok Karen.

 

[BADASH]

It drives me insane that people will cheer on players that have history of beating women, but then draw the line at them kneeling for the anthem. Hypocritical much, or is kneeling worse than beating a woman?

 

[2th_doc]

my son at age 10 explained to his little sister and his mom and I at the dinner table that boys stick their penis in a girl’s vagina and they both like it.

 

[jbp]

That they are doing what they think is right, even if you dont agree with it. They have a right to do that as Americans and that they are not disrespecting those that served even if some people interpret it that way

BULL SHIT

 

[aggiefox27]

I think it's a teaching moment. Explain there are differences in people and that makes us all unique. Explain kneeling is solemn and respectful rather than turning your back or not participating (even though it irks us) for the National Anthem. Explain social injustice ina simple way And how people need to educate themselves on issues before blindly following it. I think most agree about the general premise but there needs to be a new movement that gets away from the Marxist blm group. As to sports and politics that I can't explain, it should be separate. Have a 10 & 8 year old so I'm with ya. These are things we try to shield them from for as long as we can so they don't become to jaded later on.

 

[6.William.Bs]

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

I am excited to hear that you have a son, because in ~16 years or so (hopefully), he will post like you used to.

 

[BADASH]

BULL SHIT

What part? That they have the right to do it, or that they are not doing it to disrespect veterans?

 

[Apollo1914]

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

🤣

 

[Ted Striker]

At least it’s a peaceful protest unlike what’s going on in most of the major cities across the US.

Unfortunately, acts like kneeling for the anthem perpetuates further unpeaceful protest violence.

 

[TP97]

I’m sick of all of the questions from these kids.

 

[CheekySchneider]

Simply tell him his favorite players are cheaters anyway so hard lesson learned for making sports stars your idols.

Funny shit and they’re my team, funny jerk man.

 

[CamoCroc Ag]

It drives me insane that people will cheer on players that have history of beating women, but then draw the line at them kneeling for the anthem. Hypocritical much, or is kneeling worse than beating a woman?

Im with you, but it’s more the coverage. They don’t beat women on national tv right before kickoff, and then celebrate it after the game. People largely forget about things that aren’t in their face.

Regardless, anyone making a role model out of athletes is either a dumbass or ten years old.

They make money to play a game because they were born taller and faster than the rest of us.

 

[AggieTom2000]

I'm all over the place on topics like these. I don't think that athletes should be role models necessarily and I also think people can lose their crap and still be a good person. Case in point - Myles Garrett.

Also, re social injustice etc.....taking care of white racist people's attitudes is only a portion of the problem. There are some inherent issues within the black community that you don't see in other races regardless of income level....such as the #of single mother families. I think it needs to be a multi-pronged attack for true social upward mobility.

Also, the flag issue is tough. I understand both sides. I guess I'm to the point of whatever...but I do think a clear end point needs to be defined. 'Fix social injustice" or "do better"

 

[bbgirlsfan]

What part? That they have the right to do it, or that they are not doing it to disrespect veterans?

That they do it while on the Diamond! Play ball, get dressed and protest as citizens, Americans, not ballplayers? Can accoutants, engineers, lawyers, Teachers, police protest in the office without getting fired? Well, the American people are going to FIRE all of the leagues where this continues! Surely you see this badash?

 

[BADASH]

That they do it while on the Diamond! Play ball, get dressed and protest as citizens, Americans, not ballplayers? Can accoutants, engineers, lawyers, Teachers, police protest in the office without getting fired? Well, the American people are going to FIRE all of the leagues where this continues! Surely you see this badash?

Yeah actually a lot of them can. And if you are going to protest, do it where the most people can see it.

 

[benh01]

Nothing more American than peaceful protest. That's what I told my son.

 

[Reckless75]

You should have heard my 4 year old this past July 4th when he and I were discussing historical context and theory as it relates to a predisposition of support to American Imperialism and corresponding relationship to the innate rights of mankind and in context of the racial strife in America today.

He said,

“Dad, Mankind. That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day

Was this right after your discussion about how the shape and color of women’s nipples can enhance your evening activities and how the research into this later in his life will be a most fulfilling time?

 

[GUV]

As an Airline Captain I couldn’t get on the PA and give my political views without getting in deep trouble. What I did when I was not in uniform was my own business unless I started committing felonies. People don’t ride on airplanes to hear the captains political view whether left or right. Why do these under educated rich clowns think people want to have their political views shoved in their face when watching a sporting event. I won’t ever watch an nba, mlb, etc until they figure out no one cares what they think.