Neither won. Biden took no stance on anything. Court packing, Antifa. Calling in the NG to Portland. He punted on in. Trump should have stood back a little and let Biden hang himself, the rope was there. And on Swine flu, 14K deaths sure, but it wasn't airbourne and not as lethal because of it and the cases infected were 60million plus to the Covid 7 million. If it was apples to apples in deadliness Biden would lose millions. Could have been explained better.Biden won easily. He had the most zingers. And was calm and tempered in his approach. And he wasn’t a sweaty pig melting behind the podium
Agreed. I think Trump came away with material to use in ads but I also think he lost an opportunity to win back some women and older voters who won’t like how he handled himself.Neither won. Biden took no stance on anything. Court packing, Antifa. Calling in the NG to Portland. He punted on in. Trump should have stood back a little and let Biden hang himself, the rope was there. And on Swine flu, 14K deaths sure, but it wasn't airbourne and not as leather because of it and the cases infected were 60million plus to the Covid 7 million. If it was apples to apples in deadliness Biden would lose millions. Could have been explained better.
So you must be tired of Biden's 47 years in office.usually people get pissed at people who lie to them, especially when it happens over and over again.
they start to figure they’re being used.
i guess if you just really want the lies to be true, you can pretend the person never said those things.
Biden’s rehearsed line was supposed to be reassuring to the middle:all Biden had in his bag was "Trump, bad man"...
he didn't answer any policy questions..
Biden is nothing more than a puppet.
Trump essentially saved Biden from himself at times but filling in the silence.Biden’s rehearsed line was supposed to be reassuring to the middle:
“Right now, I’m the Democratic Party”
but it was and is corny, if not outright cringeworthy.
Trump stepped all over Biden and drowned out most opportunities Joe had to stumble into a gaffe.
The bottom line to me is that all Biden had in his bag was "Trump, bad man"... he didn't answer any policy questions and couldn't even address all the riots going on. Refused to even acknowledge Antifa (WTF?) and wouldn't even talk about his options for supreme court or discuss court packing. Biden is nothing more than a puppet.
The part about taking a shrink on every police call made me shake my head. That can't be the plan or we need a ton more money and to train a ton more psychologists and psychiatrists.Biden addressed the defunding police, rejected it, and stated he wanted better community policing (which I 100% agree with) and better social workers for calls, although he didn't specify. You don't want to bring a shrink to a bank robbery, but do at a domestic violence call. Probably lost Antifa with that even though he pretended they don't exist.
That was the only time I actually heard him "detail" a platform other than raising taxes with more loopholes so Trump can save that $750 next year.
In all though it felt like two grumpy ass old men fighting over the last cup of tapioca pudding.
The one thing I cannot for the life of me shake is every time Biden got stuck he pulled this stupid Hollywood bullshit of looking into the camera with his hands pointing at it saying "you, I'm doing *unintelligible* for you, go vote, you, you, you!" It was so condescending and fake and made him look like he was begging.
Trump came off as an arrogant bully, which we knew. Biden came off as a fake crybaby fear monger.
The part about taking a shrink on every police call made me shake my head. That can't be the plan or we need a ton more money and to train a ton more psychologists and psychiatrists.
Good point. Though I thought Biden was saying, we'll still send police with guns, but they'll have an MD/PhD riding shotgun, too.And train them to shoot, otherwise we'll have a lot of dead ones.
I read an article with analysis from a pollster, Luntz, who does focus groups for the networks. I think he was on CNBC, though I just read a recap. Had a group of undecideds and like others whose analysis I’ve seen, most thought no one won the debate and that it was pointless. Luntz’s takeaway is that it may have actually cause people to decide not to vote at all who aren’t sure who to vote for. In the end, not sure how that plays out. Especially if Biden’s enthusiasm gap stays out and also if some of his statements irked the Sanders wing.I’m a director on the boards of two mid-cap companies (one in the US and one I chair in the U.K.). My thought, throughout the debate, was that none of my fellow directors would even think about hiring either of those bozos to be a CEO.
Pretty good summary.Biden addressed the defunding police, rejected it, and stated he wanted better community policing (which I 100% agree with) and better social workers for calls, although he didn't specify. You don't want to bring a shrink to a bank robbery, but do at a domestic violence call. Probably lost Antifa with that even though he pretended they don't exist.
That was the only time I actually heard him "detail" a platform other than raising taxes with more loopholes so Trump can save that $750 next year.
In all though it felt like two grumpy ass old men fighting over the last cup of tapioca pudding.
The one thing I cannot for the life of me shake is every time Biden got stuck he pulled this stupid Hollywood bullshit of looking into the camera with his hands pointing at it saying "you, I'm doing *unintelligible* for you, go vote, you, you, you!" It was so condescending and fake and made him look like he was begging.
Trump came off as an arrogant bully, which we knew. Biden came off as a fake crybaby fear monger.
I read an article with analysis from a pollster, Luntz, who does focus groups for the networks. I think he was on CNBC, though I just read a recap. Had a group of undecideds and like others whose analysis I’ve seen, most thought no one won the debate and that it was pointless. Luntz’s takeaway is that it may have actually cause people to decide not to vote at all who aren’t sure who to vote for. In the end, not sure how that plays out. Especially if Biden’s enthusiasm gap stays out and also if some of his statements irked the Sanders wing.