Crazy shit going on in Colorado.

[staubach1972]

Another 10 people dead there

10 killed in supermarket shooting in Boulder, Colorado

One of those killed was a police officer, and a suspect is in custody.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[jr95]

“I can’t believe it’s happening in Boulder”

Anytime a shooting happens that’s NOT in CO is the only time I find my self saying “I can’t believe it’s happening somewhere other than Colorado”

 

[Brother Thelonious]

Hug your loved ones. The world is off of its rocker.

 

[hammr40]

There is more legislation sitting in the chambers with no push to vote it through, So sad but they needed to help push it to a vote and try to pass it. Always an event when they try to take away our most crucial amendment. Most events in US history where when they tried to pass U N treaty on arms

 

[schmak01]

There is more legislation sitting in the chambers with no push to vote it through, So sad but they needed to help push it to a vote and try to pass it. Always an event when they try to take away our most crucial amendment. Most events in US history where when they tried to pass U N treaty on arms

I mean, there are mass shootings every weekend in places like Chigaco and DC, but they don't fit the narrative and expose major issues with minority communities that politicians just want to use and not actually help, so gotta drive some narrative via other means. The rub and tug shooter didn't do the trick and the racist narrative fell through. All the while we completely ignore our mental health issues in this country. If we honestly care about gun violence we would focus on building up our impoverished communities and removing mental health stigmas while providing more support for those in need. It's not about that though, it's about removing power and ability from the people. Kinda like the stupid DC Statehood bill. All steps on the ladder down.

 

[RedshirtAg]

“I can’t believe it’s happening in Boulder”

Anytime a shooting happens that’s NOT in CO is the only time I find my self saying “I can’t believe it’s happening somewhere other than Colorado”

Thanks for your really shitty response.

There was a mass shooting in both Dallas and Houston on the 20th.

 

[staubach1972]

Thanks for your really shitty response.

There was a mass shooting in both Dallas and Houston on the 20th.

I saw that too.

 

[Mark Passwaters]

This thread has about 3 minutes until it makes it to the politics board. Just a hunch.

 

[AggieInDC]

Thanks for your really shitty response.

There was a mass shooting in both Dallas and Houston on the 20th.

Say what?

I'm not doubting the veracity of your statement I just haven't seen anything on it. I figured it would be bigger news.

 

[Mark Passwaters]

Say what?

I'm not doubting the veracity of your statement I just haven't seen anything on it. I figured it would be bigger news.

I know about the Houston one for sure. That's not an overstatement.

 

[Thepassag]

My youngest son is finishing his masters at CU. I'm trying to get ahold of him. Prayers requested.

 

[AggieInDC]

I know about the Houston one for sure. That's not an overstatement.

OK, I found this in the news when I did a search for "Houston shooting March 20"

Calling this one a "mass shooting" is a stretch

And per HPD, despite reports, there was no evidence of shooting/shots fired at the Galleria

 

[RedshirtAg]

Dallas was 8 people shot, 1 dead. Both of the Texas shootings were at bars so doesn’t carry the same surreal feeling as a grocery store shooting.

I live a few miles from there and it’s a bad bad feeling.

 

[BDB99]

Shit happens every week in Chicago and crickets. Sounds like South Florida is experiencing some fun in the sun as well but not hearing much about it other than the media trying to say the only problem is spring breakers spreading Coronavirus. Has nothing to do with the brawls in the street that keep spilling into restaurants where property is destroyed and innocent people are assaulted. Lets focus on some nut job in Colorado or some sex addict in Atlanta. Democrats can exploit those murders to go after law abiding citizens second amendment

 

[RedshirtAg]

Innocent people are dead and the narrative of the board appears to be man there better not be any changes to the gun laws. Strange reaction.

 

[bcg_2006]

Predictable

 

[BDB99]

Innocent people are dead and the narrative of the board appears to be man there better not be any changes to the gun laws. Strange reaction.

no it's the tweets and immediate media narrative that some law would have prevented this but Republicans will not allow it. Lloyd Doggett immediately tweeted as such and as a law abiding Texan i do not want my second amendment messed with after a tragedy. Are you tweeting ole lloyd saying the same thing?

 

[Mark Passwaters]

Suspect ID-ed as 21-year-old Ahmad al-Issa.

 

[AggieInDC]

Suspect ID-ed as 21-year-old Ahmad al-Issa.

And subsequent reporting showing he's openly supported ISIS if not having contact with elements of the same. And the shooter's brother has reported the guy likely suffered from mental illness saying he was "paranoid and anti-social."

 

[Mark Passwaters]

Enough with the personal crap. It's tiresome.

 

[Reckless75]

Last night one of my wife's friends verbally attacked her because she knows my wife supports the 2nd amendment. The lady had seen the news video of police escorting the shooter in handcuffs.

One of her statements:

"Yeah, white guy goes into a supermarket and shoots a bunch of people. Now tell me why anyone needs an AR-15? 'merica!"


The shooter, Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa approves this message.

 

[chuckg_07]

Last night one of my wife's friends verbally attacked her because she knows my wife supports the 2nd amendment. The lady had seen the news video of police escorting the shooter in handcuffs.

One of her statements:

"Yeah, white guy goes into a supermarket and shoots a bunch of people. Now tell me why anyone needs an AR-15? 'merica!"


The shooter, Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa approves this message.

"Friend"

 

[Colt_Seavers]

Innocent people are dead and the narrative of the board appears to be man there better not be any changes to the gun laws. Strange reaction.

That’s because gun owners are tired of these events being blamed on firearms, which is exactly what the media is doing with this one.

How about we look at the crazy f*cker pulling the trigger? What got him to this point?

 

[Reckless75]

"Friend"

According to my wife, that term is likely to be dropped.

 

[Reckless75]

That’s because gun owners are tired of these events being blamed on firearms, which is exactly what the media is doing with this one.

How about we look at the crazy f*cker pulling the trigger? What got him to this point?

Biden just laid out his game plan.

Going after "assault weapons", high capacity mags, and background checks would have saved these 10 lives.

 

[schmak01]

Democrats Exploiting Latest Tragedy To Push Anti-2A Legislation But Clearly Know NOTHING About Arms - YouTube

 

[Reckless75]

Biden said he will not speculate on what happened and why it happened, he won't do that because we don't have all the information.

"While we are awaiting more information regarding the shooter, his motive, the weapons he used, the guns, the magazines, the weapons, the modifications that have apparently taken place to those weapons that are involved here, I don't have to wait another minute............we can ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines..."


So, while he doesn't have all the information, including what type of weapon used, and won't speculate on that, he will move forward with banning all "assault weapons".


We do know the shooter's name was Ahmad.

But that's not the important point here.

 

[Aggie98nHouston]

Shit happens every week in Chicago and crickets.

How does more people being murdered that is not getting reported assist an argument that we do not need any further gun control?

 

[Reckless75]

How does a jihadist killing 10 people in a supermarket assist in an argument that we do not need to ban jihadists?

 

[Aggie98nHouston]

How does a jihadist killing 10 people in a supermarket assist in an argument that we do not need to ban jihadists?

That was a weird nonsensical response to a legit question.

If you had to craft an argument for the NRA, would you say "people in Chicago are shot all the time with guns and nobody covers that, so this mass shooting event does not mean we need any gun control"?

I'm not arguing for or against gun control here, just trying to understand how that argument is useful to one side.

 

[RedshirtAg]

How does a jihadist killing 10 people in a supermarket assist in an argument that we do not need to ban jihadists?

Well that’s just racism. He is from Syria and moved to the US at the age of 3.

Guy had a history of violence and was on parole for assault. He was on an FBI watch list but was able to go buy a gun that holds 30 rounds on March 16. We all good with that?

 

[AggieInDC]

That was a weird nonsensical response to a legit question.

If you had to craft an argument for the NRA, would you say "people in Chicago are shot all the time with guns and nobody covers that, so this mass shooting event does not mean we need any gun control"?

I'm not arguing for or against gun control here, just trying to understand how that argument is useful to one side.

Simply put it points to the hypocrisy and complete lack of rational thought on the part of the anti-2A folks.

 

[Reckless75]

That was a weird nonsensical response to a legit question.

If you had to craft an argument for the NRA, would you say "people in Chicago are shot all the time with guns and nobody covers that, so this mass shooting event does not mean we need any gun control"?

I'm not arguing for or against gun control here, just trying to understand how that argument is useful to one side.

I think what the guy was saying that your earlier reply was to is, Chicago has strong gun laws locally. They have lots of shootings and killings. Having strong gun laws haven't stopped the shootings there. And Chicago's argument to that is "Well, the guns come in from outside." And that argument got snuffed when it was compared to the entire country, and if we banned all guns then they would just come in from outside the country. And we all know that we have no border security now. That cannot be the message delivered.

So, in summation, in order to avoid having to discuss the failure of strong gun laws in Chicago, the left leaning press avoids reporting the shootings and deaths in Chicago.

 

[AggieInDC]

Well that’s just racism. He is from Syria and moved to the US at the age of 3.

Guy had a history of violence and was on parole for assault. He was on an FBI watch list but was able to go buy a gun that holds 30 rounds on March 16. We all good with that?

So given those facts his background check should have come back that he was unable to buy a firearm but clearly some data didn't make it into the system for some reason. A similar thing occurred with both the Sutherland Springs and Charlotte shooters.

Thus the question is, why didn't that information get into the system to prevent the purchase? Perhaps we should perfect the existing systems which typically work well rather than piling on additional regulations which don't actually do anything to prevent people like this guy from purchasing weapons but places unconstitutional restrictions on the law-abiding.

And discussing the guy's jihadist sympathies isn't remotely racist. Automatically assuming he's a jihadi because he's a Muslim immigrant from Syria is. However there's been plenty of instances of American-born Muslims and American citizens who are Muslims that were Islamic terrorists. Same for those in the UK.

 

[Reckless75]

Well that’s just racism. He is from Syria and moved to the US at the age of 3.

Guy had a history of violence and was on parole for assault. He was on an FBI watch list but was able to go buy a gun that holds 30 rounds on March 16. We all good with that?

No, it's not racism. It was an example of how silly the comment, "How does more people being murdered that is not getting reported assist an argument that we do not need any further gun control?" sounded in response to BDB99's comment.

 

[Reckless75]

Well that’s just racism. He is from Syria and moved to the US at the age of 3.

Guy had a history of violence and was on parole for assault. He was on an FBI watch list but was able to go buy a gun that holds 30 rounds on March 16. We all good with that?

Sounds like the FBI that spent 6 years trying to sling shit on the wall and get it to stick about Trump, instead should have been reporting their information concerning potential mass killers correctly so it would show up in a background check to purchase a gun.

The system is already in place.

 

[Aggie98nHouston]

I think what the guy was saying that your earlier reply was to is, Chicago has strong gun laws locally. They have lots of shootings and killings. Having strong gun laws haven't stopped the shootings there. And Chicago's argument to that is "Well, the guns come in from outside." And that argument got snuffed when it was compared to the entire country, and if we banned all guns then they would just come in from outside the country. And we all know that we have no border security now. That cannot be the message delivered.

So, in summation, in order to avoid having to discuss the failure of strong gun laws in Chicago, the left leaning press avoids reporting the shootings and deaths in Chicago.

1) we are not banning all guns
2) pointing to Chicago is like saying we have a peeing side of the pool. One city's gun control laws cannot have a major impact if you can get a gun in the next city over.
3) Australia belies the argument gun control would have no effect on a national level.

Darwin shooting: Why mass shooting feels unfamiliar to Australia

The deadly gun rampage in Darwin is the sort of mass shooting Australia has not seen for years.

www.bbc.com

There are better arguments for the gun lobby than pointing out that people are shot all the time in Chicago as a reason to not have any gun control laws.

 

[Aggie98nHouston]

No, it's not racism. It was an example of how silly the comment, "How does more people being murdered that is not getting reported assist an argument that we do not need any further gun control?" sounded in response to BDB99's comment.

Calling someone a jihadist isn't racist if it is done to show you deem a totally unrelated point silly? I didn't know that.

 

[Reckless75]

Calling someone a jihadist isn't racist if it is done to show you deem a totally unrelated point silly? I didn't know that.

Is jihadist a race?

 

[Reckless75]

1) we are not banning all guns
2) pointing to Chicago is like saying we have a peeing side of the pool. One city's gun control laws cannot have a major impact if you can get a gun in the next city over.
3) Australia belies the argument gun control would have no effect on a national level.

Darwin shooting: Why mass shooting feels unfamiliar to Australia

The deadly gun rampage in Darwin is the sort of mass shooting Australia has not seen for years.

www.bbc.com

There are better arguments for the gun lobby than pointing out that people are shot all the time in Chicago as a reason to not have any gun control laws.

I like how you say WE are not banning all guns.